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Message: [QUOTE="gtcam, post: 3458600, member: 2844"] Let's see if Bouk/Gaffney led teams win something before any comparatives as a duo are made If you are talking about individuals: Gaff - not close to Bazz but lets see as time goes on. Bazz averaged more pts, steals, asts and reb in about the same minutes against better comp in the OBE during freshman year Bouk - among the top freshmen in the nation. In comparative to Lamb freshman stats - Lamb averaged 2 less pts per game but had better rebounding assist and less turn overs. granted Lamb came on stronger during tournament so that has to be considered. They are very similar. Bouk ranks behind Rip Hamilton in consistency, stats and Rip played against a higher level of competition in his freshman year, If he comes close to Rip's 2nd and 3rd years then he will be something special - but those are big numbers. Remember Rip was BE all freshman team and All Big East 1st team all defensive team as a freshman. [/QUOTE]