Bad Shots

[DRBackup]

So they were "lucky" in a sense that it hadn't cost them a game yet, but the continuous stream of bad shots finally caught up with them.

• High degree of difficulty layups
• Quick, out of rhythm threes

And my personal favorite, the worst shot in all of basketball, the on-the-move 2 point jump shot.

These are all shots that great players make and for parts of the season different members of the team were able to hit those shots. Not all of them were hitting in the same game, and not every player that could hit them did in any particular game

And then, SC played the toughest, most physical defense they saw all year and none of them were hitting any of these shots.

Bottom line, IMO, is that for some odd reason, the 21st century game hasn't caught up with Geno yet. Three pointers and layups. That's it. My only wish is that the moving 2 point jump shot is relegated to the dustbin of history.

UPDATE: I do SO love people that react negatively to something, but can't be bothered to offer any reasoning.

 

[ERWUC65]

So they were "lucky" in a sense that it hadn't cost them a game yet, but the continuous stream of bad shots finally caught up with them.

• High degree of difficulty layups
• Quick, out of rhythm threes

And my personal favorite, the worst shot in all of basketball, the on-the-move 2 point jump shot.

These are all shots that great players make and for parts of the season different members of the team were able to hit those shots. Not all of them were hitting in the same game, and not every player that could hit them did in any particular game

And then, SC played the toughest, most physical defense they saw all year and none of them were hitting any of these shots.

Bottom line, IMO, is that for some odd reason, the 21st century game hasn't caught up with Geno yet. Three pointers and layups. That's it. My only wish is that the moving 2 point jump shot is relegated to the dustbin of history.

There is tough, physical defense and then there is taking 2 players from your starting lineup and telling them that instead of playing team basketball, to go and faceguard and bully the other teams best players for the entire game. That strategy works for that game, but as expected, they have nothing left for the next game.

 

[DRBackup]

There is tough, physical defense and then there is taking 2 players from your starting lineup and telling them that instead of playing team basketball, to go and faceguard and bully the other teams best players for the entire game. That strategy works for that game, but as expected, they have nothing left for the next game.

I don't disagree with you at all. Just trying to be as generous as possible to what you'd call what SC was doing.

 

[my2cents]

My definitions of good shots and bad shots.
Bad shots= Miss
Good shots= Go in.

 

[WiseWillie]

So they were "lucky" in a sense that it hadn't cost them a game yet, but the continuous stream of bad shots finally caught up with them.

• High degree of difficulty layups
• Quick, out of rhythm threes

And my personal favorite, the worst shot in all of basketball, the on-the-move 2 point jump shot.

These are all shots that great players make and for parts of the season different members of the team were able to hit those shots. Not all of them were hitting in the same game, and not every player that could hit them did in any particular game

And then, SC played the toughest, most physical defense they saw all year and none of them were hitting any of these shots.

Bottom line, IMO, is that for some odd reason, the 21st century game hasn't caught up with Geno yet. Three pointers and layups. That's it. My only wish is that the moving 2 point jump shot is relegated to the dustbin of history.

UPDATE: I do SO love people that react negatively to something, but can't be bothered to offer any reasoning.

Wonder what Paige would say about your "worst shot in all of basketball".

Running two-pointers are used in the mid-range pull up for a "stop and pop" or floater to counter aggressive defense. Also used during fast breaks. Used frequently when an open 3-pointer isn't available. Kobe was a master at it. To me, it's a high-skill weapon that can catch defenses flat footed. You're of course entitled to your opinion but guess we could leave this saying we have a different opinion.

 

[FanSince17]

What you're describing is called "shooting off the dribble". (obviously inside the 3-point line) All really good players MUST have this skill. I think what you mean is that it is a dumb shot to shoot a jumper with your foot or feet on the line. I do agree with that. Ash was struggling with that in the last couple of games. Do you want everyone to just spread out beyond the 3 point line and hoist 3's without penetrating or going inside? Sounds hideous! Time to start watching other sports more.
Any old farts like me care to talk about basketball before the institution of the 3-point shot?

 

[meyers7]

My definitions of good shots and bad shots.
Bad shots= Miss
Good shots= Go in.

I think most people who know anything about basketball would disagree with you.

 

[mainerhuski]

What you're describing is called "shooting off the dribble". (obviously inside the 3-point line) All really good players MUST have this skill. I think what you mean is that it is a dumb shot to shoot a jumper with your foot or feet on the line. I do agree with that. Ash was struggling with that in the last couple of games. Do you want everyone to just spread out beyond the 3 point line and hoist 3's without penetrating or going inside? Sounds hideous! Time to start watching other sports more.
Any old farts like me care to talk about basketball before the institution of the 3-point shot?

I loved Ash shooting with her foot on the line, those were the ones that went in!

 

[Superhuskies]

There is tough, physical defense and then there is taking 2 players from your starting lineup and telling them that instead of playing team basketball, to go and faceguard and bully the other teams best players for the entire game. That strategy works for that game, but as expected, they have nothing left for the next game.

I couldn't find the UConn- Gamecocks game on ESPN Friday eve ---- all I could find was some SEC football game... at 7pm ET.......??
Maybe my lousy $549 75" Samsung TV ??
Lousy Xfinity ?? I have only ....400 channels..??
It was a really great, rough football game !! But on April 3?? Ohhh, ...musta been a Spring game !!

 

[FanSince17]

I couldn't find the UConn- Gamecocks game on ESPN Friday eve ---- all I could find was some SEC football game... at 7pm ET.......??
Maybe my lousy $549 75" Samsung TV ??
Lousy Xfinity ?? I have only ....400 channels..??
It was a really great, rough football game !! But on April 3?? Ohhh, ...musta been a Spring game !!

You know, I'm a 26 year veteran teacher and being an old fart, I suck at technology. Ask your nearest 4th or 5th grader. I did a lot with tech, even robotics, because I could always ask a kid if I got in a pickle.
You not finding that game is criminal!

 

[YKCornelius]

I couldn't find the UConn- Gamecocks game on ESPN Friday eve ---- all I could find was some SEC football game... at 7pm ET.......??
Maybe my lousy $549 75" Samsung TV ??
Lousy Xfinity ?? I have only ....400 channels..??
It was a really great, rough football game !! But on April 3?? Ohhh, ...musta been a Spring game !!

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Cheers!

 

[BBallF]

There is tough, physical defense and then there is taking 2 players from your starting lineup and telling them that instead of playing team basketball, to go and faceguard and bully the other teams best players for the entire game. That strategy works for that game, but as expected, they have nothing left for the next game.

It also doesn't work in the next game against a physical inside team and a closer refereed game.

 

[dtbtbtb]

The refs allowed SC to go over the back of UConn players for rebounds and allowed them to hold Sarah (not grab, hold) which they didn't allow in the game against UCLA....when SC tried to go over the back or hold Lauren B. they were called for it... i don't know if UConn would have won the game if the refs would have called it same way in the Semi as in the final but for sure it would have been a different game and much closer if not a clear win for UConn.

 

[Huskie837]

You know, I'm a 26 year veteran teacher and being an old fart, I suck at technology. Ask your nearest 4th or 5th grader. I did a lot with tech, even robotics, because I could always ask a kid if I got in a pickle.
You not finding that game is criminal!

When in doubt ask a kid...

 

[BBallF]

So they were "lucky" in a sense that it hadn't cost them a game yet, but the continuous stream of bad shots finally caught up with them.

• High degree of difficulty layups
• Quick, out of rhythm threes

And my personal favorite, the worst shot in all of basketball, the on-the-move 2 point jump shot.

These are all shots that great players make and for parts of the season different members of the team were able to hit those shots. Not all of them were hitting in the same game, and not every player that could hit them did in any particular game

And then, SC played the toughest, most physical defense they saw all year and none of them were hitting any of these shots.

Bottom line, IMO, is that for some odd reason, the 21st century game hasn't caught up with Geno yet. Three pointers and layups. That's it. My only wish is that the moving 2 point jump shot is relegated to the dustbin of history.

UPDATE: I do SO love people that react negatively to something, but can't be bothered to offer any reasoning.

In the last 18 years in the 21st century, Geno has been to the FF 17 times when they have had a tourney. I think most coaches would like to be "not caught up" like that. As for the moving away jumper, I agree it is a difficult shot, but it is also an unblockable shot and Ash, Sarah and Kayleigh shoot it and while I don't have the percentages of makes, I would not like to see it discarded. Kayleigh and Sarah both made several during the year to my immediate recollection.

 

[Wally East]

the 21st century game hasn't caught up with Geno yet

But last year he was a genius, right?🙄

 

[Centerstream]

You know, I'm a 26 year veteran teacher and being an old fart, I suck at technology. Ask your nearest 4th or 5th grader. I did a lot with tech, even robotics, because I could always ask a kid if I got in a pickle.
You not finding that game is criminal!

If you have internet service that includes practically any sports package, and can navigate to espn.com, then there is a "Watch" button in the navigation bar that will take you to where you can find replays by clicking on the date.

Alternatively, you can copy/click the following link:

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Visit ESPN to get up-to-the-minute sports news coverage, scores, highlights and commentary for Football, Cricket, Rugby, F1, Golf, Tennis, NFL, NBA and more.

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Cheers!

Are you serious or did you actually miss the sarcasm of the post by @Superhuskies that you replied to?
Or maybe I'm missing something too?

 

[BobbyJ]

So they were "lucky" in a sense that it hadn't cost them a game yet, but the continuous stream of bad shots finally caught up with them.

• High degree of difficulty layups
• Quick, out of rhythm threes

And my personal favorite, the worst shot in all of basketball, the on-the-move 2 point jump shot.

These are all shots that great players make and for parts of the season different members of the team were able to hit those shots. Not all of them were hitting in the same game, and not every player that could hit them did in any particular game

And then, SC played the toughest, most physical defense they saw all year and none of them were hitting any of these shots.

Bottom line, IMO, is that for some odd reason, the 21st century game hasn't caught up with Geno yet. Three pointers and layups. That's it. My only wish is that the moving 2 point jump shot is relegated to the dustbin of history.

UPDATE: I do SO love people that react negatively to something, but can't be bothered to offer any reasoning.

The 21st century started in 2000. Since then Auriemma has won 11 NCs. I don't think he's going to need your advice or theories.

 

[WiseWillie]

But last year he was a genius, right?🙄

Plus let's not forget last year there was that player who sometimes uses the moniker "Buckets"

 

[BobbyJ]

Plus let's not forget last year there was that player who sometimes uses the moniker "Buckets"

Exactly. IMO, that was the biggest factor in the SC game for more than just points scored. With her, UConn wins that game.

 

[Spaceman213J]

I think the lack of motion in the offense led to a bunch of bad shots having to be taken. But overall, a lot of things went wrong and SC had a lot to do with it.
I don't think Strong even took a shot until almost 5 minutes into the game. She got a few switches and mismatches, and the team failed to get her the ball. Then she started drifting out to the perimeter.
Blanca looked like a freshman for the first time in a long time.
Fudd never found her shot.
Then they started watching each other instead of moving. And not scoring makes it so they can't set up the press, which energizes them at times. I give SC a lot of credit. They hit UConn early and like Tyson used to say, everybody has a plan until they get hit. They didn't know how to respond.
And I don't think it was Geno's fault. You could see him pleading with them to move, box out and do the things they had been doing all season.

Also, I don't know if she got banged up, but the offense changed a few games before when K.K. reverted to being a guard who refused to shoot anything but layups. Now, I don't want her taking 15 shots a game from outside the paint, but she needs to be a willing shooter. And again, she isn't the reason the team lost. More than anything, SC made the plays they needed to make.

 

[YKCornelius]

Are you serious or did you actually miss the sarcasm of the post by @Superhuskies that you replied to?
Or maybe I'm missing something too?

Both - I seriously missed the sarcasm. Cheers!

 

[Rowdy831]

I couldn't disagree more. The issue with the layups is they are going in too far and giving the advantage to the taller player. Pull up and take the ten footer. Most of the time you make it but even if you don't the defender will come out and defend the shot opening up a lane to rebound.

I the final game Azzi and Sarah looked exhausted to me and neither of them attacked the lane and shot a pull up. Instead they forced a pass to a lesser shooter and they simply never got into a rhythm or a good place with confidence. Problem is no other player was capable of pulling them out. Next year they will be back.

 

[Woof]

We miss shots when being fouled and make shots when not being fouled.

First, it directly causes a lot of those "inexplicably missed shots". It is tough to hit a shot when you are being grabbed or bumped while shooting. It is why players are taught to initiate contact

Second, it impacts how a team plays. They tend to avoid contact since it never gets called. That means fewer inside shots and rushed jump shots.

Third, grabbing and hip checks make it difficult to get open jump shots. Our motion is disrupted and we can't properly execute our offense. As a result, we end up with shots that are highly contested and rushed. We don't take "bad shots" unless that is all the defense (refs) allow.

Fourth, players get frustrated and rattled. See, a stoic player ripping her own jersey.

The problem is ENTIRELY about the non-calls. It is exactly the same thing that happened to the men in the championship game.

 

[Woof]

Wonder what Paige would say about your "worst shot in all of basketball".

Running two-pointers are used in the mid-range pull up for a "stop and pop" or floater to counter aggressive defense. Also used during fast breaks. Used frequently when an open 3-pointer isn't available. Kobe was a master at it. To me, it's a high-skill weapon that can catch defenses flat footed. You're of course entitled to your opinion but guess we could leave this saying we have a different opinion.

It is an essential shot for shorter players. If KK could perfect these shots, and continue her improvement on 3s, she will be a first team AA next year. I think she can get these shots any time she wants, due to her speed and handle. It is also the best shot when the other team is being allowed to hack and hold you.