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Message: [QUOTE="Brochacho, post: 5197061, member: 705"] Final Four. Every season that doesn't end in a FF isn't worth remembering. We can both have the talent to make a FF and not be that good of a team. Some notable teams to make the FF and their kenpom rating: 2024: NC State 45 2023: Miami 24 2018: Loyala 31 2017: South Carolina 24 2016: Syracuse 27 2011: Butler 36, VCU 53 2010: 20 MSU You don't have to be an elite team to make the FF. You need luck, matchups, and to get hot. [/QUOTE]