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Message: [QUOTE="fireford, post: 4805403, member: 11088"] You are correct in stating that what I'm saying is conjecture but I never implied it was anything different than that. When asked for proof that someone didn't try to do something hard enough what better proof can you come up with other than the end result doesn't support the alleged effort? Those who are challenging my statement also have no facts to support the contrary so at the end of the day it's all conjecture. And what would be the downside of adding someone? Agree that a Dorka is hard to find but at least they'd have another option to try. Would rather they swing and miss than not swing at all. [/QUOTE]