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Message: [QUOTE="Plebe, post: 3430829, member: 6927"] Your whole post just overcomplicates the essence of what happened. In both plays OSU ran screening action off the ball, which was totally to be expected since they run off-ball screen action all the time, it's their bread and butter. The defense has to know how they're going to play the screens, especially in an end-of-game situation coming out of a timeout. Clearly ASU is capable of defending off-ball screens or else they wouldn't have beaten Oregon State 4 times in a row. Any time someone gets a wide open layup on an out of bounds play there was a major defensive breakdown. It doesn't mean it wasn't a well-designed play, but it's a play that depends on the defense breaking down. I don't know why this is so offensive to state. It's possible to hold both thoughts in the head at one time: nice play by offense, colossal screw-up by defense. [/QUOTE]