AP Poll - 12/18

[navery12]

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No change even after a semi-road win over a top 10 team. Not completely surprising but thought we'd move ahead of Arizona

 

[simplyben]

Only 27 points separate 3-5 and we are only 5 behind Arizona.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Arizona lost a close one on the road. Hard to drop them for that. Oh wait...

Seriously though we are right there in a tight group 2-5. We're closer in points to #2 Kansas than #6 Marquette

 

[Beowulf]

Virtually tied with zona, within striking distance to 3, decent size buffer to 6. Not what you’d like in a “we just beat a top 10 team and didn’t move up” sense but we’re in that top tier

 

[Hurleyman216]

Kind of dumb, but not surprising. Pollsters have never figured out how to move teams up after good wins, the only thing they know how to do is to move teams down after losing. The dumbest thing is the order you lose in matters more than actually losing. Kenpom is a better reflection of where teams are in my opinion. We are definitely a top 3 team right now. I'm actually not sure how good Houston is, but we'll find out in the next month or so if they're really a top 3 team. Purdue is good when their guards play like they did against Arizona, but they aren't as consistent as us and their ceiling is lower in my opinion. Purdue is also athletically challenged at a couple positions which we are not.

Also, because of the way the polls work, don't be surprised to see a very mediocre James Madison team in the top 5 or 10 teams in the country because they play no one from here on out while the other teams in the top 25 have to play in real leagues.

 

[BGesus4]

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No change even after a semi-road win over a top 10 team. Not completely surprising but thought we'd move ahead of Arizona

Top 6 + Kentucky seem like the real championship contenders. Everybody else is at least a tier below

 

[JohnnyJr]

Kind of dumb, but not surprising. Pollsters have never figured out how to move teams up after good wins, the only thing they know how to do is to move teams down after losing. The dumbest thing is the order you lose in matters more than actually losing. Kenpom is a better reflection of where teams are in my opinion. We are definitely a top 3 team right now. I'm actually not sure how good Houston is, but we'll find out in the next month or so if they're really a top 3 team. Purdue is good when their guards play like they did against Arizona, but they aren't as consistent as us and their ceiling is lower in my opinion. Purdue is also athletically challenged at a couple positions which we are not.

Kansas isn’t even top 10 in Kenpom. They are just ranked two because they lost earlier and are Kansas.

 

[Brochacho]

Arizona lost a close one on the road. Hard to drop them for that. Oh wait...

Seriously though we are right there in a tight group 2-5. We're closer in points to #2 Kansas than #6 Marquette

Lol does this have to do with us losing at Kansas? We dropped 1 spot for that loss and Arizona dropped 3 for theirs.

 

[auror]

It was 50/50 with us and Zona for #4. But I didn't see them dropping Zona 4 spots to losing a road game against a top 3 team while playing pretty well.

 

[upstater]

Arizona is given more credit for beating Duke, Michigan St and Wisconsin and than UConn is for beating Texas, Gonzaga, North Carolina and Indiana. Personally I think the UConn road is a bit tougher.

 

[upstater]

It was 50/50 with us and Zona for #4. But I didn't see them dropping Zona 4 spots to losing a road game against a top 3 team while playing pretty well.

I think on resume you do drop them below UConn. UConn has done more at this point, but it's not a big deal.

 

[Malamute]

Kansas isn’t even top 10 in Kenpom. They are just ranked two because they lost earlier and are Kansas.

Kansas has the best win of the year so far. Carries a lot of weight!

 

[tzznandrew]

Arizona lost a close one on the road. Hard to drop them for that. Oh wait...

Seriously though we are right there in a tight group 2-5. We're closer in points to #2 Kansas than #6 Marquette

It wasn't all that close. They were down 17 in the second half. They made a run, but the game wasn't really in jeopardy. Nobody watched it though, so I guess that's fine.

They should not be ahead of UConn.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Obviously everyone can do what they want, but I won't waste any time worrying about this. There's a whole lot of season left. Things should shake out as they are supposed to.

 

[JohnnyJr]

Kansas has the best win of the year so far. Carries a lot of weight!

But they got crapped on by Marquette

 

[ucp990411]

The only poll that matters is the final poll

 

[Chin Diesel]

Arizona lost a close one on the road. Hard to drop them for that. Oh wait...

Seriously though we are right there in a tight group 2-5. We're closer in points to #2 Kansas than #6 Marquette

Yeah, #2-#5 are tight but overall I'd feel better at #2 than #5.

 

[BigTenFan]

I think it's great that so many of these top teams have played each other before league play. Great games and gives the coaches and fans new perspective that didn't exist 5 years ago. The only outlier on the list is Houston. Not sure they are a top 5 team....we shall see

 

[Vuce]

I don’t get the Houston ranking. Not only haven’t they not beaten a ranked team yet, they haven’t even played one and we are closing in on January

 

[Hi-Low]

I don’t get the Houston ranking. Not only haven’t they not beaten a ranked team yet, they haven’t even played one and we are closing in on January

Houston doesn't face the Big12 ranked opponents until late Jan / Feb so may not be tested until then. First ranked opponent they face this year is @BYU on 1/23....@TX & @KU follow soon after. Houston also @IA St & @TCU earlier in January who are decent teams.

 

[GoConn]

We should be #3...pretty sick of the disrespect we get after boatracing fellow top 15 ranked teams like Gonzaga and UNC on neutral floors but whatever

 

[navery12]

Houston doesn't face the Big12 ranked opponents until late Jan / Feb so may not be tested until then. First ranked opponent they face this year is @BYU on 1/23....@TX & @KU follow soon after. Houston also @IA St & @TCU earlier in January who are descent teams.

I could see the week where they play @ Iowa State and @ TCU be where they slip up. Those are 2 tough games, and an outside chance one or both are ranked by that point. Iowa State is at 33 right now

 

[JohnnyJr]

We should be #3...pretty sick of the disrespect we get after boatracing fellow top 15 ranked teams like Gonzaga and UNC on neutral floors but whatever

It’s annoying but this is probably the range we’re gonna stay at most of the season. The teams ahead of us don’t start playing big conference opponents again for over a month about the same time we start.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Lol does this have to do with us losing at Kansas? We dropped 1 spot for that loss and Arizona dropped 3 for theirs.

Yes it was haha. I think we are better than the 5th best team. The December AP rankings also do not matter practically so shrug