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[QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 4856933, member: 168"]
So, to be clear, you think it is ridiculous they are 12 but that it would be fine if they were 14 or 15?

Penn State is 9-10 and just beat Wisconsin. Why are we only holding a bad loss against Duke and not Wisconsin? Wisconsin also got beat by like a million by Arizona (who did beat Duke, but not by a ton). Wisconsin is living off that Marquette win.

Marquette. Sure, I guess. They have an extra loss, but PC, Butler, Purdue, and Seton Hall are all better than Georgia Tech, Pitt, and Arkansas. But given where the teams were ranked last week (7 Duke, 17 Marquette) it doesn't seem egregious in poll logic, particularly because Duke was missing two starters for this most recent Pitt loss.

Creighton? Stop it. They have 5 losses, three of which were absolute beat downs. One of those was to UNLV. They don't have a win equal to a N-Baylor.

I think 12 makes a lot of sense given the logic of the polls, and I really only think Marquette has a real case to be ranked ahead of Duke. But Duke wasn't whole in that Pitt loss.
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