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Message: [QUOTE="B1GEast, post: 2733133, member: 39"] Go to a high line dealership, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, etc. Drive around the lot when they are closed and also check their website. You might get lucky and find an off brand vehicle. You can get great deals, no one goes to a Mercedes Benz dealership to buy a Ford. These cars are trade ins and they are usually wholesaled at months end. If you find a car not listed on their website, call and ask to speak with a sales manager. Make sure you know the KBB average dealer price and don't get greedy. Make a fair offer I've purchased off brand cars from high line dealers and saved thousands. Good luck [/QUOTE]