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auror said:
You're suggesting that Roy "9 Final Fours" Williams is a tournament underachiever?
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Seriously. This board is insane. This guy has been to 2 National Championship games in the last 4 years (1-1), won two other titles, went to an additional Final Four and 2 additional E8s.

3 NCs
5
7 E8s

In 15 years at UNC. Pump that under-achieving straight into my veins!
 
tzznandrew said:
Seriously. This board is insane. This guy has been to 2 National Championship games in the last 4 years (1-1), won two other titles, went to an additional Final Four and 2 additional E8s.

3 NCs
5
7 E8s

In 15 years at UNC. Pump that under-achieving straight into my veins!
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He gets elite players who sometimes stay eligible illegally. Never ending pipeline to Duke, Kansas, Kentucky and NC. He’s no Jim Calhoun.
 
jibsey said:
He gets elite players who sometimes stay eligible illegally. Never ending pipeline to Duke, Kansas, Kentucky and NC. He’s no Jim Calhoun.
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Yet every Jim Calhoun team that ever won it all had multiple McDs All Americans, five star recruits, lottery picks, etc. Dumb post.

Funny how the board craps on every successful coach out there for not making the Final Four yet our lord and savior Jim Calhoun had a losing Elite 8 record. And our program as a whole can't figure out how to string together a winning season in this crap conference. There's only four spots. Cal, K, Izzo, Williams, Self, etc all can't make it every year. Dumb.
 
jibsey said:
He gets elite players who sometimes stay eligible illegally. Never ending pipeline to Duke, Kansas, Kentucky and NC. He’s no Jim Calhoun.
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Seriously, this is such a bad look. I know we've been down for a while and we're all a little salty about it but to imply that the only reason said teams are successful and we're not is that they're either paying players or cheating is pathetically petty.

Regardless of what the facts were behind the UNC academic scandal, Carolina's recruiting took a major hit for years and yet they still went to back to back championship games and won one. Ol Roy may be shady but he's a damn good coach too. Same goes for K, Cal, Self and the rest.
 
Brochacho said:
Yet every Jim Calhoun team that ever won it all had multiple McDs All Americans, five star recruits, lottery picks, etc. Dumb post.

Funny how the board craps on every successful coach out there for not making the Final Four yet our lord and savior Jim Calhoun had a losing Elite 8 record. And our program as a whole can't figure out how to string together a winning season in this crap conference. There's only four spots. Cal, K, Izzo, Williams, Self, etc all can't make it every year. Dumb.
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It may be a dumb post but our lord and savior Jim Calhoun never had the luxury of handpicking the talent that Roy does every year. Calhoun is a McDonald's franchise owner, Roy is Ray Kroc.
 
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superjohn said:
It may be a dumb post but our lord and savior Jim Calhoun never had the luxury of handpicking the talent that Roy does every year. Calhoun is a McDonald's franchise owner, Roy is Ray Kroc.
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From '15-'17 they didn't land a kid inside the top 25 recruiting rankings and they won the title in '17.
 
auror said:
From '15-'17 they didn't land a kid inside the top 25 recruiting rankings and they won the title in '17.
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That national championship winning team in '17 had the (#9 overall #1 small forward) (#15 overall #3 small forward) (#16 overall #4 pf) (#25 overall #3 center) (#30 overall #4 point guard) (#48 overall #8 combo guard) (#58 overall #5 center) (#96 overall #30 shooting guard)

Roy had 5 McDonald's all-Americans on that team.
 
Roy's 2009 UNC championship winning team had 8 McDonald's All-Americans.

So those two championship winning teams for Roy had as many McDonalds All-American players combined as Calhoun had in his whole career.
 
superjohn said:
That national championship winning team in '17 had the (#9 overall #1 small forward) (#15 overall #3 small forward) (#16 overall #4 pf) (#25 overall #3 center) (#30 overall #4 point guard) (#48 overall #8 combo guard) (#58 overall #5 center) (#96 overall #30 shooting guard)
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So 1 top 10 kid on a 4 year recruiting cycle roster is handpicking any kids he wants?

UConn '04 had 1 top 10 kid and 3 top 24 kids. Same as that UNC team. Plus #34 and #41. So the UNC team had 1 extra top 25 guy from 4 classes.

Roy certainly has some years where he cleans up (and this year is looking like it). But he was hurt by the NCAA scandal, and still won during that span. He still had horses, but they had 1 top 10 recruiting class in the 5-year span from '13-'17 and it was exactly #10 in 2014.

And he was #1 in PAKE and had a .789% tournament win% (15-4) during that stretch ('13-'17) with 2 Final Fours and 1 title.
 
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auror said:
So 1 top 10 kid on a 4 year recruiting cycle roster is handpicking any kids he wants?

UConn '04 had 1 top 10 kid and 3 top 24 kids. Same as that UNC team. Plus #34 and #41. So the UNC team had 1 extra top 25 guy from 4 classes.

Roy certainly has some years where he cleans up (and this year is looking like it). But he was hurt by the NCAA scandal, and still won during that span. He still had horses, but they had 1 top 10 recruiting class in the 5-year span from '13-'17 and it was exactly #10 in 2014.

And he was #1 in PAKE and had a .789% tournament win% (15-4) during that stretch ('13-'17) with 2 Final Fours and 1 title.
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You made it out like it was some sort of unusual feat that Roy was able to win it all in 2017 with the talent he had. Obviously winning any championship is difficult but don't make it out like he wasn't doing it without a boatload of top high school talent... He had 5 McDonald's All-Americans on the team, something Calhoun could never dream of.

Take that team and his 2009 team and he had as many McD's All-Americans as Calhoun had in his 26 years coaching at UConn.
 
superjohn said:
You made it out like it was some sort of unusual feat that Roy was able to win it all in 2017 with the talent he had. Obviously winning any championship is difficult but don't make it out like he wasn't doing it without a boatload of top high school talent... He had 5 McDonald's All-Americans on the team, something Calhoun could never dream of.
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I mistakenly lumped in the '17 recruiting class with the '17 title. So the team was a little more talented than I thought. But still, as to the original premise, he's certainly not underachieving, even accounting for good or better talent.
 
They are both great coaches and Roy consistently had more highly ranked players than JC did. Simple as that.
 
People that don’t think Roy can coach are moronic. I’m no Roy Williams fan, but christ come on step into reality folks, tje guy can coach.

Most talented team doesn’t always win - what was that team from Virginia - oh yeah, George Mason.
 
To give some perspective. Coach K has coached 79 McDonald's All-Americans in a 37 year period at Duke, I think Calhoun is around 13 McDonald's All-Americans in 26 years at UConn. I don't know the # on Roy.
 
superjohn said:
Roy's 2009 UNC championship winning team had 8 McDonald's All-Americans.

So those two championship winning teams for Roy had as many McDonalds All-American players combined as Calhoun had in his whole career.
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Thank you.
 
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Seventh Woods said he’s transferring from UNC so another scholly just opened up for PA
 
Psolo12 said:
Seventh Woods said he’s transferring from UNC so another scholly just opened up for PA
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They had 2 grad transfers considering them as well
 
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