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Message: [QUOTE="husky429, post: 4769740, member: 6696"] It's hard to understand exactly what you're saying because you aren't quite using the terminology I normally hear. When people say "apex" they are always referring to the apex of the jump. When someone wants to refer to the hand, you're referring to a "set point" (by the eyebrow-ish) or a "release point" (elbow above the eyes). Your third paragraph really isn't correct though. There have been great shooters shooting before, during and after the apex of the jump. After the shot seems to mostly be great mid-range shooters because they like to fall away. While it's correct you get more range when you release on the way up, it's not correct that it impacts accuracy. Literally the best shooter in the history of the game releases before the apex of his (very small) jump. The best shooters in the game right now almost all shoot on the way up. I'll point back to simple physics. If you're at the true apex of the jump, that means the entire shot is arm-based, because you are no longer moving up or forward at all. The legs lifted you into the air, but they aren't propelling the ball forward and up. That's what you see with [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ1cR0tcWuc']Ray's[/URL] shot, and that is why he had such a strong arm heave. His shot is still gorgeous, don't get me wrong, but it's just not a shot that is conducive to either shooting off the dribble or from longer distances. [URL='https://youtu.be/9cz8R4x1DHw?t=23']This[/URL] video explains it via Booker's shot pretty well. The biggest issue with Ray's type of shot, especially for younger shooters, is that it impacts accuracy at range. When you have the legs involved in the actual propulsion of the ball more (and the same way every shot), you can use less arm muscle and maintain the integrity and consistency of the shoting form. It's how a guy like Curry, Klay, or Booker can seem to shoot the ball for 35 feet with consistency and older school shooters didn't even bother to shoot from there. [/QUOTE]

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