Amore - Boat, Bazz and Giff back next year

[junglehusky]

Sorry if I missed it earlier, it might have been on twitter yesterday, but at the bottom of today's Courant story on Calhoun and Calhoun was a blurb confirming that those three should be back next year.

 

[Dann]

2 more guys and we have a freaking team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HuskyBballFan]

2 more guys and we have a freaking team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One more - Omar's comin' too.

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

Omar's comin

 

[Dann]

1 more and we have a freaking team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Omar's comin

If everyone in the student section next season whistled the cheese stands alone tune, that would be absolutely awesome.

 

[freescooter]

Omar's comin

Well at least he hasn't tweeted any nonsense about a repeat like our last big recruit...at least none I've seen.

 

[MarieM]

i dnt think he has a twitter... read somewhere his parents don't want him or his younger sister to have one..

 

[sammydabiz]

Don't forget about Daniels, he's prime to have a good season

 

[CAHUSKY]

Sorry if I missed it earlier, it might have been on twitter yesterday, but at the bottom of today's Courant story on Calhoun and Calhoun was a blurb confirming that those three should be back next year.

Where were they going to go? These reports that players are coming back are silly.

 

[Fishy]

Where were they going to go? These reports that players are coming back are silly.

Um, another school?

They're far from silly.

 

[CAHUSKY]

Um, another school?

They're far from silly.

Really? Why in the world would any of our current players transfer? We haven't heard anything about anyone being unhappy. The only possible reason would be the potential tourney ban but since none but AO are juniors or seniors they would have to sit out a year if they transferred which would nullify the reason for doing it. I don't get it.

 

[Fishy]

Given that we're in line to take a hit and that our recruiting will no doubt, and has already, suffer, we're going to be rebuilding for a bit. There are greener pastures out there - and given that we're not privy to their happiness or unhappiness, I'm more than happy to read about current kids who are sticking it out.

I'm concerned that we haven't heard from certain players that they intend on staying. It's not cut and dry.

 

[kobebeanbryant]

i think it's kind of ridiculous that our beat reporters need to ask omar calhoun if his commitment is firm like 5 times (after he has already signed a LOI), and ask every player on the team if they are staying. i know it's not the reporters concern, but it makes us look even more desperate than we are.

any transfer (besides AO) will not be due to us not playing in the tourny next year. it will be for the same reasons kids transfer every year. do the beat reporters normally ask every kid if they are staying?

 

[Waquoit]

Sorry if I missed it earlier, it might have been on twitter yesterday, but at the bottom of today's Courant story on Calhoun and Calhoun was a blurb confirming that those three should be back next year.

That's better than the worst case scenario. Still, should be isn't the same as will be.

 

[caw]

Given that we're in line to take a hit and that our recruiting will no doubt, and has already, suffer, we're going to be rebuilding for a bit. There are greener pastures out there - and given that we're not privy to their happiness or unhappiness, I'm more than happy to read about current kids who are sticking it out.

I'm concerned that we haven't heard from certain players that they intend on staying. It's not cut and dry.

I think UK just proved rebuilding can be done overnight. Cal has been there 3 years, had 3 top 2 recruiting classes, gone from the elite 8 to the final four to a NC. I'm not saying that's a direction I want UConn going in, but it can be done.

 

[UConnfan8]

If everyone in the student section next season whistled the cheese stands alone tune, that would be absolutely awesome.

hahahahahaha

 

[caw]

Perhaps, I am misunderstanding, but only those players whose eligibility expires next year can transfer and not sit a year, correct?

So why would any of the other kids transfer based solely on the NCAA ruling?

I could understand someone transferring because they won't get PT or they hate the coaching staff or they have a family member sick, but the NCAA ruling shouldn't have an effect on any of the players state of mind. Should it?

 

[Fishy]

Perhaps, I am misunderstanding, but only those players whose eligibility expires next year can transfer and not sit a year, correct?

So why would any of the other kids transfer based solely on the NCAA ruling?

I could understand someone transferring because they won't get PT or they hate the coaching staff or they have a family member sick, but the NCAA ruling shouldn't have an effect on any of the players state of mind. Should it?

Of course it will have an effect - you get four years of eligibility and the NCAA is telling UConn's roster that they will only have three opportunities to play for a post-season.

Next year's UConn team will play until about the first of March and then stop - no Big East, no NCAA, nada.

I'd certainly consider my options.

 

[caw]

Of course it will have an effect - you get four years of eligibility and the NCAA is telling UConn's roster that they will only have three opportunities to play for a post-season.

Next year's UConn team will play until about the first of March and then stop - no Big East, no NCAA, nada.

I'd certainly consider my options.

I get you have four years of eligibility. I'm only talking about transfers. I get why this could push Lamb/Drummond to leave for the NBA.

Let's use Player X as an example. Player X is going to be a non-senior. He wants to go pro after next year. He isn't ready for this year, but feels he will be by next year. Why would he transfer? He would have to sit a year at the new school. His goal is to go to the NBA after next season. Why not stay at UConn, play in the regular season and be evaluated on the regular season? It's that or be evaluated based on not playing a game next year.

Now let's look at Player Y who might be a 4 year player. What is his best option? If he transfers he has to sit a year, but he gets four years of eligibility looking for a championship. However, prior to this news he didn't want to leave UConn. Now wouldn't it be better to stay at UConn and redshirt next year?

If the player was already considering transferring, this might push them to transfer, but what do they gain? They still have to sit a year, if they really wanted the 4 years of eligibility they could just redshirt a year.

I am fully aware you were joking with redshirting everyone and playing scrubs/walkons, but if Drummond, Lamb go pro, why not redshirt any player who wants to redshirt. It's the equivalent of them transferring in terms of eligibility (Bradley aside), at least as far as I understand the transfer rules for this situation.

I am under the impression Oriakhi is the only player that could play immediately next year.

 

[Fishy]

The postseason is a big deal - a very big deal. Fans, players, the schools....everything is about the postseason*.

Not being eligible for one year and then having the prospect of their senior or junior season be one of rebuilding is going to give every player on this roster reason to consider transferring. That's just the reality of it - that's why UConn was so willing to hamstring itself with its own proposed penalties in lieu of a ban. It's very, very, very bad.

On the redshirting thing...I wasn't joking.

I'd redshirt everyone if I could. Screw the NCAA...let them get a load of our student managers playing 32 minutes on Big Monday.

(* Unless you're Providence - then, it's all about "next year".)

 

[caw]

The postseason is a big deal - a very big deal. Fans, players, the schools....everything is about the postseason*.

Not being eligible for one year and then having the prospect of their senior or junior season be one of rebuilding is going to give every player on this roster reason to consider transferring. That's just the reality of it - that's why UConn was so willing to hamstring itself with its own proposed penalties in lieu of a ban. It's very, very, very bad.

On the redshirting thing...I wasn't joking.

I'd redshirt everyone if I could. Screw the NCAA...let them get a load of our student managers playing 32 minutes on Big Monday.

(* Unless you're Providence - then, it's all about "next year".)

LOL, doesn't quite answer my question though.

What would be the benefit to transferring over redshirting for a incoming player/rising sophomore/rising junior? I just don't see one, based solely on not being eligible next year.

 

[Fishy]

This is not rocket science. Or maybe it is and I am just a genius.

This is not a one year penalty. It will crush our recruiting this year and when added to the Calhoun/retirement that will be looming, it will likely crush it next year as well.

We'll lose players off of this year's team and not replace them in kind. We'll be signing lesser players going forward.

If I'm Shabazz Napier, for example, even if I redshirt next year, I cannot expect to be playing for the kind of UConn team in 2013/14 I envisioned when I committed. Whatever time I have left to play college basketball will have to be done on a team that is in all likelihood significantly diminished.

To what degree that bothers him will decide whether he stays or goes - some kids are going to do the math and opt to leave.

I think people are caught up in next year - this will haunt us for a while. Someone above mentioned that Kentucky has shown that a team can reload in a year...that's nonsense. It shows that Kentucky can reload in a year. UConn won't.

If we're banned next year, we likely won't start healing from it until we have the new coach recruiting with a new practice facility.

 

[HuskyHawk]

This is not rocket science. Or maybe it is and I am just a genius.

This is not a one year penalty. It will crush our recruiting this year and when added to the Calhoun/retirement that will be looming, it will likely crush it next year as well.

We'll lose players off of this year's team and not replace them in kind. We'll be signing lesser players going forward.

If I'm Shabazz Napier, for example, even if I redshirt next year, I cannot expect to be playing for the kind of UConn team in 2013/14 I envisioned when I committed. Whatever time I have left to play college basketball will have to be done on a team that is in all likelihood significantly diminished.

To what degree that bothers him will decide whether he stays or goes - some kids are going to do the math and opt to leave.

I think people are caught up in next year - this will haunt us for a while. Someone above mentioned that Kentucky has shown that a team can reload in a year...that's nonsense. It shows that Kentucky can reload in a year. UConn won't.

If we're banned next year, we likely won't start healing from it until we have the new coach recruiting with a new practice facility.

All true, but it's the pessimistic view. It's a self fufilling prophecy...or not. If the existing players don't transfer...none of them would graduate next year. The team playing in 13-14 would be very experienced, and would have a huge chip on its collective shoulder. There is some talent there. It could certainly be ranked and get to the sweet 16. Assuming a good new coach comes in, he may attract some good recruits that fill out that roster, and there could be no real rebuilding.

So if everyone stays, and JC retires next week, followed by Shaka Smart being hired, do you think any of the current HS Juniors would really be reluctant to come to UConn? They could be on a good team, with a bright future. Now if the kids bail, and we recruit a bunch of nobodies who take up our ships, and JC languishes along...we're hosed.

 

[caw]

You are basically assuming everything that can go wrong will, it has nothing to do with rocket science. I am just looking at it from a different perspective.

Yes, if multiple players decide to transfer UConn will suck for 2013-2014. If UConn keeps most of the kids around (Drummond/Lamb aside) they won't. Daniels, Giffey, Roscoe, Olander, Bradley, Wolf with Napier, Boatright, Calhoun is a darn good start. Not to mention that in 2014 UConn should have a full 13 scholarships available. There are a bevy of good 2013 recruits in NE. UConn will have openings, I think UConn can entice a few.

A lot will depend on Calhoun and who replaces Calhoun, that I agree. That has very little to do with the ban, IMO.