OT: American basketball player arrested in Indonesia

[Scoe]

Not to get too OT to this thread but did you all hear that 10 inmates from a New Orleans jail escaped and apparently got helped from the inside.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Not to get too OT to this thread but did you all hear that 10 inmates from a New Orleans jail escaped and apparently got helped from the inside.

Yeah that story's been the talk of my office today. What?

 

[uconn13]

Like Gump said, stupid is as stupid does

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

There's no way he wouldn't have heard not to do it. It's not a matter of him having to research laws lmao

In Shaw’s third season in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation, there’s zero chance he wouldn’t know something about Sharia law nor know nothing about strictly prohibits recreational drug use. A true Rand McNally hoopster, he’s played in many nations in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, South America, the Caribbean, and Mexico. Playing previously in Thailand, Tunisia, andbparticularly in Saudi Arabia, Shaw certainly was exposed to strict dictates inconsistent with his recreational drug use and stated distribution plans.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Not to get too OT to this thread but did you all hear that 10 inmates from a New Orleans jail escaped and apparently got helped from the inside.

1 guy captured after being found underneath a car in the French Quarter. 9 to go, and likely some of the 10 escapees identity their prison staff helper.

 

[HuskyNan]

Malaysia and Thailand have similar drugs laws as Indonesia where the 34 year old “kid” pulled his dumb ph|uck idiocy. Thailand has zero responsibility for the latter’s actions nor those of the seller or EMS World shipment. Obviously, Malaysia has absolutely zero involvement.

Wouldn’t the league give foreign players a list of Laws That Shouldn’t Be Broken?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Wouldn’t the league give foreign players a list of Laws That Shouldn’t Be Broken?

Someone should have. An agent, an official from the league or his team's office. Someone who helps facilitate US players moving there to play professional basketball has to be at least somewhat aware of the potential pitfalls if a player behaves as if he is still in the US.

 

[SubbaBub]

FAFO, can't get enough.

 

[JohnFSilver]

lol I’m sure you read the entire legal code every time you enter a foreign country.

I mean, don’t bring drugs, guns or plants to other countries.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Other countries have laws, too.

Maybe follow them.

I’ve never been there and even I know Asia has the toughest drug laws on the planet. He’s just stupid.

Yeah they make more money shipping poppy straw to the US

 

[Yawin4Heisman]

Malaysia and Thailand have similar drugs laws as Indonesia where the 34 year old “kid” pulled his dumb ph|uck idiocy. Thailand has zero responsibility for the latter’s actions nor those of the seller or EMS World shipment. Obviously, Malaysia has absolutely zero involvement.

A) the guy 100% would have known - any idea he wouldn’t after being there for years is farcical…

But

B) you are incorrect, Malaysia yes, Thailand no. Weed is legal in Thailand now. Bangkok is more flooded with weed than Amsterdam ever was with shops everywhere and you routinely not only see weed but mushrooms and the like openly available for sale in night markets and whatnot. There is sometimes political talk of this being undone but it’s been legal now for 2 or 3 years.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

A) the guy 100% would have known - any idea he wouldn’t after being there for years is farcical…

But

B) you are incorrect, Malaysia yes, Thailand no. Weed is legal in Thailand now. Bangkok is more flooded with weed than Amsterdam ever was with shops everywhere and you routinely not only see weed but mushrooms and the like openly available for sale in night markets and whatnot. There is sometimes political talk of this being undone but it’s been legal now for 2 or 3 years.

Use yes, sale and particularly shipping internationally not so much

 

[RichZ]

A 34 year old is still a kid?

My son is 59. He has grandkids. I still think of him as a kid.

 

[thekollieman]

Can almost guarantee that the “laws are laws” folks here would be singing a completely different tune if one of their adult children got caught breaking a foreign law.

The mental gymnastics would be olympic gold level.

Also, while it’s easy to say we obviously wouldn’t try it, I can imagine this guy himself had already been getting away with it many times prior and likely knew other players who saw it as no big deal. On paper it’s clearly a huge deal, but in practice I’m guessing it goes unnoticed pretty frequently. I could be way off, but that’s just my guess as to “how/why did he put himself in that position?”

 

[dennismenace]

There's no way he wouldn't have heard not to do it. It's not a matter of him having to research laws lmao

He and others have the freedom to do a lot of stupid things. If he was truly ignorant instead of just defiant and ambivalent that says a lot about the importance of practical wisdom like "look before you leap." Says a lot about the dangers of mind altering substances in more ways than one as well.

 

[nomar]

My son is 59. He has grandkids. I still think of him as a kid.

"Your Honor, I respectfully submit that my client be tried as a minor. Sure, he was born 5 years before we landed on the moon, but RichZ thinks of him as just a rosy-cheeked rascal."

 

[dennismenace]

Also, while it’s easy to say we obviously wouldn’t try it, I can imagine this guy himself had already been getting away with it many times prior and likely knew other players who saw it as no big deal. On paper it’s clearly a huge deal, but in practice I’m guessing it goes unnoticed pretty frequently. I could be way off, but that’s just my guess as to “how/why did he put himself in that position?”

When human beings reflect on "mistakes" in their past a big part of the motivation is often "because I thought I could get away with it". In other words if I thought I couldn't I would not have done it. Risk taking considered but dismissed. No deception like self deception. Darkens the mind. The lie: I can get away with it. I believe the lie repeatedly. After a while I believe the lie and pretty soon it is no longer a lie but "the truth". The truth becomes if I can get away with it it no longer is "wrong" because the consequences won't affect me.

 

[Mister Wonderful]

My son is 59. He has grandkids. I still think of him as a kid.

Could that be because, I don’t know, he is your kid?