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Message: [QUOTE="freescooter, post: 5307456, member: 1023"] They are Cal and Stanford. Top academic institutions. Top basketball, better than Cal and Stanford but if top basketball is the measuring stick, UConn and Kansas might be better bets. Football, though? I a suppose if you are desperate to get into North Carolina you’d look at UNC. But they are hardly a football media darling. 45 years since the last ACC championship. But maybe. But seriously, why would you take Duke? Another mouth that brings nothing in the sport you care most about. You know when Duke last won an ACC football title? 1989. Since the league broke into divisions you know how many divisional titles they’ve won? 1. 12 years ago. And just for fun, while they get lots of basketball press, they last won it all a decade ago. They are on the verge of becoming Indiana. [/QUOTE]