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Message: [QUOTE="MD#12Fan, post: 4159469, member: 8636"] I appreciate you making a response. Not so sure of your use of the adverb "clearly". Pardon a couple of analogies: if you're a poker player, I've discovered your "tell". References to the true innovators and geniuses of the game of basketball are in no way slights to what Geno has accomplished. If we draw a basketball evolutionary tree with the man himself as the trunk (Naismith), then Carill and Smith are certainly main branches. "Clearly" whatever the rules of the game are, these are two men who would be innovating and changing the game to adapt to the circumstances. Analogy #2: you and I are walking through an art gallery, I'm from DC, The National Gallery of Art. IMO you can't just run to the room with the Van Goghs without spending a half hour marveling at the Da Vinci (1400's) and maybe the Rembrandts (mid 1600's). Come on, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. BTW my computer password is "Guru of Go". Nobody likes fast break/pressing basketball more than me. Best college team ever- UNLV with Hunt, Anthony, Augmon, Gran Mama. [/QUOTE]