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Message: [QUOTE="MD#12Fan, post: 4158864, member: 8636"] Ugh, really? This is x's and 0's talk? Firstly, there are dozens and dozens of presses and they all have certain intended consequences, some to speed up the opponent, some to slow down the opponent, some super aggressive presses to get turnovers and steals, some to just eat into the shot clock. Sure, attacking a press can be effective, it can also be risky, putting players in uncomfortable positions, and yes, perhaps, speeding them up. Apples and oranges- the 4-corners was a stall and Dean was unapologetic about it. It was a strategy for the time, a time with no shot clock. Every school in America had some version of the 4-corners for end of game situations. At that time, (come on, you're as old as me) there was not a philosophy about end of game stall situations, it was how the game was played. Where it got tricky was when underdogs tried to basically stall for the whole game. UNC and UVA with Ralph Sampson ugliness led finally to the shot clock being instituted. Famous game- if I can get it right- late 60's UMD beat South Carolina (ACC power) 13-9 behind Howard White and Jim O'Brien. (Gary Williams on that team) [/QUOTE]