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Message: [QUOTE="KnightBridgeAZ, post: 2047121, member: 591"] The bias thing is difficult, because it is subjective. Let me give some examples - - One referee (a blast from the past) liked a free flowing game. He was always going to call more fouls on Rutgers - playing a physical, break up the flow, kind of game. Other ref's would let it go. He didn't dislike Rutgers, he disliked the style of play. - Another referee got annoyed with the constant flopping by a player on one team. On the 3rd or 4th flop, after having warned her, he gave her a blocking foul on what was obviously a no call. Wrong? Subjective, we have seen flopping discussions on the BY. - Referees are given tendencies and info about teams before games. If so-and-so is noted as being highly physical in the notes, of course fouls are going to be called on her more often. If one team is known for lane camping and the other for a free moving offense - on an equal stay in the lane, which one gets the 3 second call? - As I have often said, and I think most agree, different conferences have slightly different styles of refereeing. Whether this is driven by the style of play common in that conference or instructions from "above", I wouldn't presume to know, but come out here to the Pac12 and watch the refs - compare them to yours. Worse - have one of them ref one of your games. - One coach complained constantly about calls. They got "T'd" up quick when they crossed the line. Others, who don't make a habit of complaining, get a longer fuse. But - certain ref's are more likely to T coaches than others. Scott Yarbrough - that someone accused of once giving Geno one - also gave one to Vivian. Like Geno, Vivian does not accumulate them. In this case, she didn't substitute after a 5th foul fast enough. By error, she hadn't realized it was a 5th (or her assistant tracking such things hadn't) and by the time the ref came over and stuck 5 fingers in her face, it was too late. Bias? or just a short fuse? And there are many more examples. I don't think replays often show "institutional" bias so much as bias regarding the way the game should be played, what constitutes a foul (exactly) and how quick you blow the whistle. As former ref Nan Sisk commented to a fan who ribbed her for not calling a 5 second inbound - "We count slower down South". Not an easy job. [/QUOTE]

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