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Message: [QUOTE="Bayareahusky, post: 2557192, member: 2136"] Yes I should back off Holly as well..... I have never thought she was the person who could pick up the mantle for Pat.... and even she thinks that herself I think..... The first year the motto was "Grind for 9" but havent had the overt aspirations since then... at least outwardly.... I see the lack of boxing out on D and bad shot selection on O.... but good for them.... a win is a win..... hats off to them..... maybe they can string along some Ws [/QUOTE]