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Message: [QUOTE="hoophuskee, post: 2482386, member: 3535"] Did I say Ionescu stinks? Didn't I say "I'm not saying she isn't terrific." --- ? What does that mean? Doesn't it mean Im saying "she is terrific?" Secondly, it's great that you bring up "entire team's defenses are being used to stop her. . ." Yet when UCONN has had 3 all-americans make it-- there were at least two that weren't the primary option. Isn't that correct? SO last year when UCONN used "their entire defense to stop her" because you couldn't do that to the UCONN player, does this mean Ionescu was more deserving as a 1st team a/a because UCONN was more of a team? Also-- what Kia Nurse -- so far is doing is historic. Please find me one player one guard - in which she has played the toughest schedule in wcbb - the toughest schedule in wcbb - the toughest schedule in wcbb- the toughest schedule in wcbb -- and she is 2nd on the team in scoring that is undefeated - and she is 2nd on the team in scoring and she is 2nd on the team in scoring --has an efg% of 72%. Please find me one guard in the history of the wcbb sport for the number 1 team in which she is 2nd in team scoring shooting the efficiency she is doing. The point is you can't. This doesn't mean Ionescu stinks. It just means that winning and historic stats are superior to losing in which a player has a defense focused on her. BTW-- please name me one undefeated team in wcbb history who has played the toughest schedule in wcbb (or 2nd) and they didn't get one 1st team a/a on it. As far as your point on talent-- it is extremely irrelevant. Nurse's efg% is 72%. It's historic. The "most talented players" I just disagree in the manner you speak. Diamond D "was very talented." Many players are "very talented" and the focus of their defense. Winning counts. If you don't think so-- then please explain why Morgan Tuck got 1st team? Because her stats were not outstanding. And was she the focus of the opposing team's defense? No. SO why is it relevant in the manner you speak when we look at Nurse AT THIS MOMENT have historic numbers. Please me which one player in the history of wcbb - a guard - who has had these efficiency stats while being 2nd in scoring on an undefeated team with the toughest or 2nd toughest schedule? Winning counts a lot. Coming close -- not so much. Oregon being led by Ionescu hasn't beaten one top 15 team. When she has played the best competition she has been "stopped." To put her above a player on an undefeated team that has played the toughest schedule in which said player is on a historic run is just lunacy. OFC the numbers could change 3 weeks from now. But we are talking AT THIS MOMENT. AT THIS MOMENT OREGON HAS DONE LITTLE - and their leader has played pretty darn bad in those big games. [B]For the record, in the future I definitely do expect that to change. [U]But you can't ignore the bad performances vs the top 15 because it doesn't fit your argument. [/U][/B] [/QUOTE]

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