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#5 Oregon St vs #1 Stanford - 3/05/21

Who will win this game?

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Did Haley Jones get benched for the last 15 minutes - or is she just sort of invisible?
 
Sched234 said:
People (myself included) seem to think of Stanford as a good shooting team, but they really haven’t shot the bell well at all that I can remember.
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I think they led the Pac 12 in made 3's, although not the highest percentage. I'm kinda the opposite, I didn't think they were a great shooting team but they are dangerous from behind the arc.
 
Lorcan said:
Stanford's best kept secret. There's actually five on a court at once.
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I've heard Tara is mad at their parents for not having more of them.
 
79-45 final. I kept waiting for the dam to break, when it did it REALLY did. Went from a 12-13 point margin to a landslide in a hurry.
 
24 for Brink, 20 for Williams, 12 for Lexie, 10 for Jump.

Goodman the only Beav in double figures w/ 12.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
I think they led the Pac 12 in made 3's, although not the highest percentage. I'm kinda the opposite, I didn't think they were a great shooting team but they are dangerous from behind the arc.
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I think the key here for this game was that Stanford only turned the ball over five times. That's huge for a team that's shown a tendency to turn over the ball from time to time in bunches. Stanford is certainly capable of getting hot from behind the arc, which adds a dangerous dimension to their game -- if Jump, Williams, Brink, or the Hulls get going, they're tough to beat.
 
It is really odd to remember that Haley Jones was considered a NPOY frontrunner early in the season.
 
Lorcan said:
I think the key here for this game was that Stanford only turned the ball over five times.
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OSU just does not force TOs. On their message board they joke around about Rueck getting mad if his players get steals.
 
Sched234 said:
It is really odd to remember that Haley Jones was considered a NPOY frontrunner early in the season.
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She was playing like it early on, but really faded. Williams has come on strong after a slow start, Brink has established herself, and Stanford has a bunch of other players who are capable of stepping up. I'd like to see more consistency from Jones, but they certainly don't need her to be an 18-20 ppg type of scorer.
 
Jones is ALWAYS short on her jumper! I swear, the last 4-5x I've watched her it's same issue!
 
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This is the best Stanford WBB Team in years. Very impressed. While the OSU Team had some really great moments defensively, Stanford is just superior. I was very impressed with OSU's defense in the half court. Unfortunately, there were too many easy buckets by Stanford running out on turnovers, missed OSU clanks, and, even after made OSU buckets (not too many of those).

This was the best game I've seen from Taya Corosdale ever defensively. Not only did she shut down Haley Jones, her help defense was outstanding. BTW, who has ever shut down Haley Jones? This was the 4th "playoff-like" game for OSU in 6 days, and, they clearly were gassed. But even with fresh legs, Stanford would have beat OSU by double digits. Stanford is fantastic.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Herself? Looking at game logs she had 6 games previously w/ single digit scoring including a low of 5 against Colorado in the 2nd meeting.
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At the beginning of the season, I believed that Jones would be a difference maker for Stanford and even that she would be the Pac 12 player of the year. She did start out well, but seems to have regressed as the season has progressed: her shooting seems off and she makes a boatload of turnovers. To me, the keys to this year's Stanford team being Tara's best in a while are Brink and, to a lesser extent, Wilson. I think the sky is the limit for Cameron, and her impact on the court, especially since she's cut down her fouls, has been amazing both offensively and defensively. (I would have chosen her as freshman of the year.) She's quick, deceptively strong, is very very skilled, and her upside is enormous. (I think she's already where Geno would like Olivia to be, or the yet-to-be seen version of Sedona Prince that Graves talked about before the season began.) And Wilson's defense and reliable 3-point shooting have been very important as well, with the latter especially welcome since, at times, Stanford, still can have trouble scoring.
 
jonson said:
o me, the keys to this year's Stanford team being Tara's best in a while are Brink and, to a lesser extent, Wilson. I think the sky is the limit for Cameron, and her impact on the court, especially since she's cut down her fouls, has been amazing both offensively and defensively. (I would have chosen her as freshman of the year.)
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I totally agree. I think we've only seen the tip of the ice berg so far, her potential is scary good. I can certainly support Leger-Walker being chosen as FOY, but it's blatantly obvious that Brink is the best Fr. talent in the conference. She effects the game so much on defense w/ her length. I don't know if she came in playing that way or if the Hulls rubbed off on her, but she has a relentless motor and is a scrapper. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a 6-4 player dive after loose balls the way she does.
 
Stanford goes how Kianna Williams goes. Kianna Williams is one of the best guards in the nation, and, somehow gets overlooked as the engine of Stanford. Having watched this kid (in person) and so many times on TV, she is remarkable, and, in an instant, take a close game to a blowout with her play.
 
nwhoopfan said:
TvO is like Caitlin Clark, she'll pull the trigger from just about anywhere past half court.
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Whoa there my fine west coast colleague-you WISH TvO was like Caitlin. I am not sure I would even call her Caitlin-lite...TvO is good but not that good and certainly not the facility and rebounder that CC is. But yeah, other than that, she is like Caitlin.... :confused:

Who is the big her hurt her leg last year-Kennedy Brown? any news on her return?
 
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DefenseBB said:
Whoa there my fine west coast colleague-you WISH TvO was like Caitlin. I am not sure I would even call her Caitlin-lite...TvO is good but not that good and certainly not the facility and rebounder that CC is. But yeah, other than that, she is like Caitlin.... :confused:

Who is the big her hurt her leg last year-Kennedy Brown? any news on her return?
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I was merely comparing their willingness to take 3s from WAY behind the line. Otherwise there is no comparison, give me a little credit. :rolleyes:

I don't have any specific info about Brown but I'd assume she'll be good to go by next fall.
 
LoTrader said:
Stanford goes how Kianna Williams goes. Kianna Williams is one of the best guards in the nation, and, somehow gets overlooked as the engine of Stanford. Having watched this kid (in person) and so many times on TV, she is remarkable, and, in an instant, take a close game to a blowout with her play.
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Completely agree. I thought exactly the same last year about Kiana when I watched her in person at the Pac-12 tournament -- she is Stanford's engine, without doubt, and doesn't get as talked about, both within the conference and nationally, as she should. Reminds me in some ways of a Renee Montgomery, fantastic control of pacing, knows when to speed up or slow down, has a settling effect on her teammates ... basically all that you want in a great PG.
 
Plebe said:
Completely agree. I thought exactly the same last year about Kiana when I watched her in person at the Pac-12 tournament -- she is Stanford's engine, without doubt, and doesn't get as talked about, both within the conference and nationally, as she should. Reminds me in some ways of a Renee Montgomery, fantastic control of pacing, knows when to speed up or slow down, has a settling effect on her teammates ... basically all that you want in a great PG.
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It's amazing what Kiana has managed to accomplish given that she's had a season shortened last year. She's scored the most of any player at Stanford since the departure of Chiney Ogwumike in 2014. Her three point shooting and contributions to Stanford will make her go down as one of the all time greats -- hopefully with a title this year to sign off on a fantastic career!
 
DefenseBB said:
Whoa there my fine west coast colleague-you WISH TvO was like Caitlin. I am not sure I would even call her Caitlin-lite...TvO is good but not that good and certainly not the facility and rebounder that CC is. But yeah, other than that, she is like Caitlin.... :confused:

Who is the big her hurt her leg last year-Kennedy Brown? any news on her return?
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I heartily agree with DefenseBB on that one. TvO makes Clark look athletic when the two guards' current games are compared. TvO will become better conditioned and stronger with a year within the OSU strength and conditioning program. Both of TvO's parents were high level athletes, so one would think that TvO will mature into a quicker and more powerful athlete during the next four years.

What does impress most observers about TvO now is her basketball IQ, passing ability, and willingness to shoot during clutch possessions of games. Assuming she remains healthy, she will put up 2,000+ points during her career because she is far-from-shy about pulling the trigger and Rueck so far has given TvO as much of a green light to shoot as any other freshman during his decade-plus coaching tenure in Corvallis.
 
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Reading comprehension everybody! The only comparison I made between TVO and Clark is shooting range. That's it. Nothing else. Got it? Good.
 
ESPN2 is going to go overtime on a wrestling match? Good lord.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Reading comprehension everybody! The only comparison I made between TVO and Clark is shooting range. That's it. Nothing else. Got it? Good.
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Aw, come on NW, just having a little fun to dampen your "too enthusiastic" view of TvO! I do like her game and think she's helped improve OSU tremendously. Just don't let a game or two let you get too carried away on her range as I am not sold it's like Clark's range as I have seen her do it EVERY game whereas TvO has done that for 2 that I have seen.

You better hope Goodman comes back to play point guard as neither GoForth nor TvO are distributors....

Cheer up, I did just post that analysis supports the PAC12 as the top conference over the last 10 years in the "Stanford #1" thread.... ;)
 
DefenseBB said:
Aw, come on NW, just having a little fun to dampen your "too enthusiastic" view of TvO! I do like her game and think she's helped improve OSU tremendously. Just don't let a game or two let you get too carried away on her range as I am not sold it's like Clark's range as I have seen her do it EVERY game whereas TvO has done that for 2 that I have seen.

You better hope Goodman comes back to play point guard as neither GoForth nor TvO are distributors....

Cheer up, I did just post that analysis supports the PAC12 as the top conference over the last 10 years in the "Stanford #1" thread.... ;)
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Debbie Downer. TVO doesn't shoot from really deep as often as Clark, but I've definitely seen her do it in more than 2 games. She's only played in 11 games so far.
 
I did say how much I like TvO, I just wanted to point out she's not Clark-ish in her skills. So yes, you only made a point on the long range shooting and I did take liberties on the overall comparison to Clark as I did want to assert the fact CC is that superior to any other freshman, other than Paige!!!! You happen to be collateral damage. Oops.
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DefenseBB said:
I did say how much I like TvO, I just wanted to point out she's not Clark-ish in her skills. So yes, you only made a point on the long range shooting and I did take liberties on the overall comparison to Clark as I did want to assert the fact CC is that superior to any other freshman, other than Paige!!!! You happen to be collateral damage. Oops.
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It will be awesome to see some of these freshman (and high schoolers) meet up in the NCAA Tournament!
 
Considering TvO is really a HS Senior, she really has been impressive. I look forward to seeing more of her.
 
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