3rd Nocera Article

[Matt (Chicago)]

crazy stuff....

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/opinion/nocera-saving-freshman-ryan.html?_r=1&ref=joenocera

 

[Ts5034]

Nice to see someone defending Uconn for a change. This is more then just a sports issue and thats why i think its more powerful coming from somewhere other then ESPN.

 

[HuskyCarlJ]

Nice to see someone defending Uconn for a change. This is more then just a sports issue and thats why i think its more powerful coming from somewhere other then ESPN.

That's a really good point. I think it's particularly true because in the sports sense this almost makes sense. The NCAA is enforcing it's rules. It's nice to have someone from outside the sports world come in to put this in real-life context, because the measures the NCAA has taken to enforce its (arcane and stupid) rules, do far more harm than good.

 

[freescooter]

To me, the fact that Nocera didn't know that the NCAA would have issues with Reggie Rose, and that he doesn't admit that there might actually be something to those issues, makes this whole piece, indeed all 3 pieces, just so much nonsense. He is so fixated on badmouthing the NCAA that he doesn't bother with looking at the facts.

Now the NCAA isn't perfect by any stretch, but in this case they are right. Fortunately for Boatright his nightmare is over.

 

[aceboon]

If his mom is now jobless and her life wrecked over this nonsense how is his nightmare over?

 

[CL82]

I'm glad he called them out for their statement. It was self serving and if they needed to smear one of the student athletes that they profess to protect well that was acceptable.

They are weasels.

 

[HuskyCarlJ]

These annotations are worth a read as well: http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/30/deconstructing-the-boatright-decision/

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

To me, the fact that Nocera didn't know that the NCAA would have issues with Reggie Rose, and that he doesn't admit that there might actually be something to those issues, makes this whole piece, indeed all 3 pieces, just so much nonsense. He is so fixated on badmouthing the NCAA that he doesn't bother with looking at the facts.

Now the NCAA isn't perfect by any stretch, but in this case they are right. Fortunately for Boatright his nightmare is over.

They're right about what? They tear this woman's life apart based on a hunch and then do what? Absolutely nothing. Issue a bitchy press release. Hey, sweetheart, sorry to bother you, thanks for playing, go back to your life. What a joke.

 

[progrocks]

These annotations are worth a read as well: http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/30/deconstructing-the-boatright-decision/

+1

 

[aceboon]

These annotations are worth a read as well: http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/30/deconstructing-the-boatright-decision/

This just makes me even more disgusted, credit to Ryan for keeping his head up during this entire ordeal.

 

[progrocks]

They're right about what? They tear this woman's life apart based on a hunch and then do what? Absolutely nothing. Issue a bitchy press release. Hey, sweetheart, sorry to bother you, thanks for playing, go back to your life. What a joke.

Ignore him, he will not be happy until Boat is spending time in federal prison. Ryan did nothing wrong, and the NCAA needs to go down. Never thought I would become a fan of the BCS, but whatever it takes.

 

[HuskyFan32]

Nocera looks like a total in that picture. I agree with almost everything he says, and Im glad he took our side but man he looks douchey in that pic.

 

[Walker11]

Mark Emmert is having a chat on ESPN @ 4. We should ask him some questions (yea I know, basically no chances he touches a question Boat related).

Link

 

[BRS24]

Here's Nocera's blog post with comments on the NCAA presser - LINK

 

[HuskyFan32]

He does nail it on the head tho. The ncaa is a joke.

 

[freescooter]

Here's Nocera's blog post with comments on the NCAA presser - LINK

It is funny but he does EXACTLY what he accuses the NCAA of doing. He knows, and the NCAA rule is pretty damned clear, for example that a payment to Ms. Boatright is considered an impermissible payment to Ryan boatright under NCAA rules. Yet there he is saying, "gosh, Ryan didn't get anything. His mother did. the NCAA lied!" And he does it time and time again. And the idea that he had no clue who Rose was or why the NCAA just might have some concerns with his involvement is absolutely mind-boggling. Just to repeat, Reggie Rose travelled for free with memphis while his brother attended. his brother paid someone to take his SATs in order to qualify to play at Memphis. And his 2nd "false claim" seems to be based on what ESPN reported, not what the NCAA said. Yes the wording was not the best in the press release, but that happens all the time. And if you read the entire document, not just one line out of context it is clearer that it meant car payments.A competent reporter, and one has to question whether ESPN has or knows of such, would have asked for a clarification before reporting that Ryan got a car.

As I've said since the beginning, I don't think Boatright knew about most of this stuff, with the obviousl exception of the California trip. he and UCONN got kind of screwed. Essentially, thoguh, Norcera makes all kinds of statements about the case, but provides precious little evidence to support his conclusions. Simply saying "I don't think the NCAA had this, or I doubt the NCAA had that" doesn't qualify as evidence.

aceboon, other than his sayso, how do we know Ms Boatright lost her job over THIS? And what kind of employer would do that anyway? Sometimes things happen to people without a cause-effect relationship, you know. there was a recent matter of a vacine given to children at a certain age and an illness that also develops around that age. there was a great deal of speculation that the vacine CAUSED the illness. Except it didn't further investigation proved. The fact that Ms Boatright got laid off is unfortunate, and as one who has been there it is very unpleasent. But in the current economy, I'd need lots more information beyond Nocera's sayso to believe that one had anything to do with the other.

 

[Deadrody]

To me, the fact that Nocera didn't know that the NCAA would have issues with Reggie Rose, and that he doesn't admit that there might actually be something to those issues, makes this whole piece, indeed all 3 pieces, just so much nonsense. He is so fixated on badmouthing the NCAA that he doesn't bother with looking at the facts.

Now the NCAA isn't perfect by any stretch, but in this case they are right. Fortunately for Boatright his nightmare is over.

I know the alleged idea behind the allegation that Reggie Rose is dirty is that he is trying to push Ryan to UConn, or eventually represent him when he is a pro, but really ? REALLY ? The man is the brother of the reigning NBA MVP. Is he honestly going to make a better living off of Ryan Boatright than he can glomming onto his own brother ? Really ? In fact, I find it FAR more likely that Rose is able to help the Boatrights because his ship - so to speak - has ALREADY come in and is making $20 Mil per year in the NBA.

The obsession with Reggie Rose is just more evidence of the NCAA holding a grudge. And based on the NCAA response to the Boatright's attorney - "Had Ms. Boatright cooperated fully from the beginning, this matter could have been settled months ago" - it seems that grudges may be the one thing the NCAA does best.

Ridiculous.

 

[freescooter]

deadrody,
you might be right. But for an guy who claims to be a journalist, to not know of Rose's history, and to not mention Rose's history, which despite his NBA success you have to concede was slimey what with hiring someone to take his SATs an all, taking free trips with Memphis for Reggie, is a pretty poor and suggest that just like your view of the NCAA, he had an agenda, too.

 

[uconnfan68]

It is funny but he does EXACTLY what he accuses the NCAA of doing. He knows, and the NCAA rule is pretty damned clear, for example that a payment to Ms. Boatright is considered an impermissible payment to Ryan boatright under NCAA rules. Yet there he is saying, "gosh, Ryan didn't get anything. His mother did. the NCAA lied!" And he does it time and time again. And the idea that he had no clue who Rose was or why the NCAA just might have some concerns with his involvement is absolutely mind-boggling. Just to repeat, Reggie Rose travelled for free with memphis while his brother attended. his brother paid someone to take his SATs in order to qualify to play at Memphis. And his 2nd "false claim" seems to be based on what ESPN reported, not what the NCAA said. Yes the wording was not the best in the press release, but that happens all the time. And if you read the entire document, not just one line out of context it is clearer that it meant car payments.A competent reporter, and one has to question whether ESPN has or knows of such, would have asked for a clarification before reporting that Ryan got a car.

As I've said since the beginning, I don't think Boatright knew about most of this stuff, with the obviousl exception of the California trip. he and UCONN got kind of screwed. Essentially, thoguh, Norcera makes all kinds of statements about the case, but provides precious little evidence to support his conclusions. Simply saying "I don't think the NCAA had this, or I doubt the NCAA had that" doesn't qualify as evidence.

aceboon, other than his sayso, how do we know Ms Boatright lost her job over THIS? And what kind of employer would do that anyway? Sometimes things happen to people without a cause-effect relationship, you know. there was a recent matter of a vacine given to children at a certain age and an illness that also develops around that age. there was a great deal of speculation that the vacine CAUSED the illness. Except it didn't further investigation proved. The fact that Ms Boatright got laid off is unfortunate, and as one who has been there it is very unpleasent. But in the current economy, I'd need lots more information beyond Nocera's sayso to believe that one had anything to do with the other.

You don't seem like a very good UConn fan. Maybe you should find another board to roam.