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Message: [QUOTE="ClifSpliffy, post: 3380946, member: 9260"] your 'point' is right there, in black and white. it even says 'my point.' 'I don't think the Big Ten is any better than the other top conferences, but I used their teams as examples for your sake to support [B]my point[/B] that all the "flawed teams" everyone is talking about are better than us' my 'point' is that the big ten stinks, and any discussion about 'top teams' that refers to any big ten team falls on my deaf ears cuz, uh well, you know...the truth that they never win anything. 'light years ahead of us?' I won't even touch that nonsense cuz, uh well, you know...the truth that they never win anything. that leaves the rest of the 'top teams' that you refer to, and other than carolina, duke, or kentucky, and absent an all world player or two for a team not named carolina, duke, or kentucky, which im not seeing so far this year, well, forget them too. when's that gonzaga victory parade again? so, no, I do not 'know' that this years bball version of the "unbeatable dallas cowgirls' soap opera (they really suck since forever, yet im told that same baloney every year for decades) as it applies to the 'top teams' is any more true than that hogwash. and, since I started these thoughts based upon my eye test for those teams, i'll finish with [I]I don't see nuthin so far to tell me different other than it's wide open.[/I] signed, don quixotic. [/QUOTE]