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Message: [QUOTE="Dogdeacon, post: 3982766, member: 1026"] All 3 of those guys were mostly horrible (esp defensively) when given a turn after the other guys had been horrible. Vogel was late to make adjustments and not good, but why the Lakers needed THREE stationary centers that cannot defend outside of the paint is beyond comprehension. The ongoing subplot that AD is a 4 has always been at least half crapola and helped undermine the Lakers this year and the Pels many years. But if LeBron & AD get healthy the Lakers will be fine and contend, just not as prohibitive favorites anymore. Kuzcma is a trade piece, Horton-Tucker is coming along and they can add shooters on the cheap. I've not idea who is going to come out of the West and that makes it as interesting as they Bucks-Nets which is definitely the de-facto championship (assuming Embid is compromised going forward) at this point. [/QUOTE]