2017 Class Rankings

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  1. Siestakeyfan

    Siestakeyfan Sailing at Block Island Race Week

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  2. DefenseBB

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    Ok, someone tell how with FOUR 5 Star recruits and the number 1 player in the HS Class that UConn is #2 behind Tenn with Three 5 Stars and one 4 Star? It still doesn't make sense to me. Perhaps our UT colleagues could oblige and opine here. I am not trying to be snarky or obnoxious and truly am scratching my head on this...Head bang
     
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  3. CL82

    CL82 It's going to be ok - calm down and enjoy the ride

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    I'd have ranked our class #1 but you can make the case for the Vols to be #1 because they got 3 McD's AAs and we 'only' got two.
     
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  4. SVCBeercats

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    Well, here is something to cause more scratching of your cabeza (HG - HoopGurlz, PN - Prospect Nation). I could buy into TENN's top three are just that much better --- maybe. Look at PN's ratings! UCONN is seriously downgraded and TENN is rated higher. How can HoopsGurlz see Kasiyahna Kushkituah as a 57 and PN have her at 11? HG and PN can't even agree on the order of ranking UCONN's recruits?! I know these ratings are just opinion but I would expect them to be within shouting distance of each other. [​IMG]
    I would like to see their algorithm for their rating of recruiting classes.
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    HG      PN
     1       1    Megan Walker
    13      31    Mikayla Coombs
    16      32    Andra Espinoza-Hunter
    29      22    Lexi Gordon
    
     2       2    Evina Westbrook
     7       6    Anastasia Hayes
    12       9    Rennia Davis
    57      11    Kasiyahna Kushkituah
    
     
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  5. Kaizen

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    Exactly,

    Tennessee Lady Vols: High ranking: 1 - Low ranking: 10
    Connecticut Huskies: High ranking: 1 - Low ranking: 3

    And UConn is #2?
     
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  6. Charliebball

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    It's not unusual at all to see such disparities between the ranking services....some say it's due to politics, some say it's about player visibility and then there are those who say it is simply subjective differences between evaluators.---..I would say it's a bit of all three.---..
     
  7. SVCBeercats

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    I am tempted to say something snarky about the lack of talent doing the evaluating. But then I remember Geno and staff have had their share of evaluations gone awry. Let us hope HoopGurlz has UCONN's 2017 class more properly evaluated and Prospect Nation is totally wrong except for Walker.
     
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  8. DefenseBB

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    Thank you, and it is a fair observation, however as some have noted on their comments on the thread- McDonald's AA IS Politically driven. I know that HG has less scouts than PN but also know that HG has better ties into USA Basketball. So in the case of Kush (KK), while she is very tall, she has limited USA Basketball experience and many reports say she is raw and less skilled than Mulkey who just tranferred from Oklahoma and did not impress anyone this past year. I tend to think "bigs" get over rated due to their size, while guards are scrutinized 6 ways to Sunday. As my dad who coached basketball for 40 years used to say, you can't coach size! That said, I do wonder why Westbrook was left off the U19 squad especially considering C.Williams, a HS player is on the team. Thanks for you cooment though, you do have me thinking!
     
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  9. SCGamecock

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    Probably has something to do with Tennessee's class having a higher "average" ranking. Sure, UConn got the number 1 overall player and 3 other 5-star players but Tennessee got THREE top 15 players.. that's impressive.

    FWIW, I really like both classes.. offensively, UConn's class is better (although Tenn's Rennia Davis can really light it up).. defensively, I like Tennessee's class (although I think Coombs is an underrated defender).. both classes have players ready to contribute immediately (UConn-Walker.. Tenn-Westbrook/Hayes) and both classes have players that I think need more "seasoning" (UConn-Espinoza-Hunter...Tenn-Kushkituah)---

    There's no real huge separation between the classes talent wise.. but both schools really cleaned up in 2017. I like our class (ranked #10 overall).. but I would take a few players from both classes in a heartbeat.
     
  10. HoopsFan21

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    They have Holly and we don't.
     
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  11. CajunHusky

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    Rankings are just rankings and are just fun for the fans --- the proof is in the pudding, we'll see this year and beyond who does better (but then that also means what kind of coaching you got).

    P.S. the McD AAs sounds good until you realize AEH wasn't eligible for McD AA or surely she would have made it as well.
     
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  12. SCspur

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    Prospects Nation recently released their Mid-Summer rankings for the 2018 class.

    Tennessee is #1 again, UCONN #3, Texas #5, SC #6, and ND #7
     
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  13. PAHuskeyFan

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    Maybe this will help when the haters start claiming "UCONN gets all the best players" again this season.
     
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  14. DefenseBB

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    Here is the link to PN on the update- Class Rankings -- 2017 -- Late Signing Final | Prospects Nation

    You buried the lead by not saying Baylor moved to #2 with the #5/7 recruits and 2 unheralded players Odd to me they would move up as a CLASS ranking with 2 nondescript players.
     
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  15. TheBridgeman

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    Maybe LAMM will see the No. 2 ranking as a snub and use it as motivation?
     
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  16. SCGamecock

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    PN getting ahead of the curve..

    SC at #6 with one player committed.. I think we have a shot at a top 5 class if the wheels don't fall off. If the stars align properly we may just bring in a class of all top 15 players..
     
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  17. stwainfan

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    Both teams got some really good players. Let's see how they do. I like our class. Davis I've heard has been impressive in workouts. Some are comparing her athletic ability with Holdsclaw. At least in terms just athletic ability.
     
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  18. Paesano

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    How is Tennessee still recruiting that well?
     
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  19. SCspur

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    I was actually talking about the 2018 class. I'm well aware what the rankings were for the 2017 class.
     
  20. CocoHusky

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    The separation of the classes will begin once they set foot on campus. What's that? They already were on campus? Then UCONN is number 1-Hands down! Just ask Miss Burdick-TN alumni.
     
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  21. triaddukefan

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    That's politics :cool:
     
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  22. vowelguy

    vowelguy Boneyard contrarian since 1998

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    Why does it matter?
     
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    That Number 1 ranked class trophy has been cast in doubt-yet again.
     
  24. bballnut90

    bballnut90 LV Adherent. Topic Crafter

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    It's normal to have some inconsistencies in these rankings. If you add in blue star, rankings swing toward UCONN:
    BS HG PN
    1 1 1 Megan Walker
    8 13 31 Mikayla Coombs
    10 16 32 Andra Espinoza-Hunter
    21 29 22 Lexi Gordon

    3 2 2 Evina Westbrook
    9 7 6 Anastasia Hayes
    26 12 9 Rennia Davis
    22 57 11 Kasiyahna Kushkituah

    Overall class ranking means very little in the grand scheme of things. Look at the last 5 years of top classes:
    2016-Maryland, multiple transfers already including best player
    2015- Duke, top player leaves after a year, Primm transfers too
    2014-UCLA, stayed in tact, doesn't appear to be a Final Four type of team though
    2013-North Carolina, all 4 players transferred
    2012-Connecticut, Jefferson/Tuck/Stewart all stayed and won 4 titles
    2011-I think Tennessee had the top class with Burdick, Massengale and Harrison...all stayed, Izzy was the best but they weren't able to reinvigorate the program
    2010-I think it was Duke, the class all stuck together but had underwhelming results, largely due to injuries
    2009-No idea
    2008-Tennessee and Rutgers had the top classes. This went on to be Tennessee's first class to never make a Final Four, and this class also started Rutgers downhill decline
    2007-I think again in was Tennessee with their class of Cain, Bjorklund and Baugh. Injuries derailed Cain and Baugh, even though they had some very good moments. Bjorklund was quite overrated in hindsight. They won 1 title on the coattails of Parker and company, but never were able to get Tennessee back to a Final Four.

    Out of 40 teams who have made the Final Four the last 10 seasons, programs who had a #1 overall class ranking on their roster make up a grand total of 5 of those 40 teams. 4 of those 5 were Connecticut's 2012 class, and the other team made the Final Four on the coattails of their upperclassmen.

    In summary, having the #1 overall class ranking doesn't mean squat.
     
  25. cbraarj

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    Coombs was ranked 4th until she hurt her knee and I think she will be a big part of what Uconn does this year!