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Message: [QUOTE="Plebe, post: 3471413, member: 6927"] Not sure if you're even trying to be serious here with "rose up at pretty much the same time." Dawn was hired at SC in 2008 and had them in the Sweet 16 in 2012. SC was a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament in 2014 and made their first Final Four in 2015. Vic was hired a full four years after Dawn, and when SC was a #1 seed in 2014, his team was in the WNIT. When she got to her first Final Four, his team lost in the second round. So no -- not "pretty much" at the same time. And funny, I seem to recall Dawn getting spanked twice by Vic last year. Arrogance is clouding the memory. [/QUOTE]