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Message: [QUOTE="CL82, post: 3227150, member: 44"] That assumes that out of state students don’t receive any merit incentives or grants. In this competitive environment, I believe that to be unlikely. Note that I am not talking about federal need based grants. It also completely ignores the value that athletics bring to the university. Jim Calhoun, and later Susan Herbst, both described athletics as the front porch and the mansion that is the university. The notion of if we eliminate the athletic department, then the university makes more money because all those empty seats can now be sold disregards the fact that many of those filling the empty seats are looking for a diverse student experience that includes attending competitive athletic events. [/QUOTE]