14th in KenPom

[BFieldHusky]

Moved up 12 spots after tonight's win. 3rd in offense. 92nd on defense.

 

[k-walk]

Moved up 12 spots after tonight's win. 3rd in offense. 92nd on defense.

Still 92nd sheesh gonna take a lot to get that to the typical hurley level

 

[Leebo]

Not sure about immediately before this, but I think the defense was outside the top 100 at some point in the last few days. Will definitely take time to recover.

 

[drayenob]

Defense was 98 before today's game. Offense was 5.

 

[willie99]

Problem with metrics, and they're a lot of them, they just don't measure where you are today, it's a season long thing

 

[Kolumbo]

CBS's Tomorrow's Top 25 And 1 has UConn at 22. Should UConn move higher? Below are some notables ahead of UConn. I think UConn should probably be ahead of Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, and maybe even Ole Miss. Seeing a trend of the Big 10 getting benefit of the doubt. Where is DePaul?!

13 Michigan is a new arrival beating Wisconsin and Iowa
15 Texas A&M up from 22 beating Texas Tech
16 Ole Miss up from 23 beating Louisville and Lindenwood
17 Michigan State is a new arrival beating Minnesota and Nebraska
18 Wisconsin down from 11 losing to Michigan and Marquette
20 Cincy down from 14 losing to Nova
21 Maryland is a new arrival losing to Purdue and beating Ohio State
22 UConn up from 25 beating Baylor and Tejas
23 Memphis down from 16 losing to Arkansas State
25 Illinois down from 19 losing to Northwestern and beating Arkansas

Projected to drop out: No. 15 Baylor, No. 18 Pittsburgh, No. 20 North Carolina

Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: Tennessee takes over No. 1 after Kansas loses twice and Auburn falls to Duke

The No. 1 team lost twice this week which should make way for a new team at the top for the first time this season

www.cbssports.com

 

[Palatine]

That second half didn't help our defense numbers at all.

 

[Al Czervik]

Johnson will be in the league soon and happened to catch fire in the second half. Maybe castle or Jackson could’ve slowed him down more, but hass and team did their best. This team is improving, which is all we can hope for after Maui

 

[auror]

Coming into today, UConn was 8th/193 on O/D without preseason bias on Torvik. Now 8/152.

 

[uh-no]

fwiw: defense for the game would have been equivalent to 25th in the country. THat's mega improvement over what we have seen. Didn't adjust great in the second half and still too many fouls....but I'll take it!

 

[HCCForever]

Johnson will be in the league soon and happened to catch fire in the second half. Maybe castle or Jackson could’ve slowed him down more, but hass and team did their best. This team is improving, which is all we can hope for after Maui

Haas did as well as you could expect since he is 3-4 inches shorter than Tre. Better defense by Ross or Stewart would have helped.

 

[uh-no]

update: up to 13 after the night's games settled out.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I think it’s fine if we’re held accountable for what happened in Maui until after conference play starts.

Winning those games will move us up on varying degrees depending on how low people had us to begin with. Beat Gonzaga and we’ll be consensus top 15, I believe.

 

[BFieldHusky]

Jumped to 24th in NET, 10th in ESPN BPI. 17th in Massey. As @uh-no said 13th in KenPom.

Fwiw, Gonzaga is No. 3 currently in the NET.

 

[BFieldHusky]

Other notables in the NET:

Big East:

6. Marquette
24. UConn
38. St. John's
59. Butler
66. Villanova
70. DePaul
75. Creighton
77. Providence
90. Xavier
100. Georgetown
210. Seton Hall

OOC:
3. Gonzaga
28. Baylor
37. Dayton
48. Memphis
64. Texas
80. Colorado

154. Syracuse (sorry I couldn't help myself).

 

[Tenspro2002]

The Gonzaga game will be huge toward determining whether we're merely on a #5-6 seed type trajectory or whether we have upside towards a #2/3 seed.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Other notables in the NET:

Big East:

6. Marquette
24. UConn
38. St. John's
59. Butler
66. Villanova
70. DePaul
75. Creighton
77. Providence
90. Xavier
100. Georgetown
210. Seton Hall

OOC:
3. Gonzaga
28. Baylor
37. Dayton
48. Memphis
64. Texas
80. Colorado

154. Syracuse (sorry I couldn't help myself).

Syracuse-Georgetown in December is going to be an unmissable game. Sorry, meant unwatchable.

 

[auror]

If we can get 8 Big East teams to stay in the top 75 of the NET, we'll be fine as a conference.

 

[BFieldHusky]

If we can get 8 Big East teams to stay in the top 75 of the NET, we'll be fine as a conference.

That's what stood out to me as well. Seton Hall is a dumpster fire, but the middle and back end of the conference is better than last year. Some more opportunities this week (like Xavier against Cincinnati).

 

[Jbirdp5]

If we can get 8 Big East teams to stay in the top 75 of the NET, we'll be fine as a conference.

Surprising to see Xavier so low in the net, did they schedule that poorly out of conference?

 

[aceboon]

Surprising to see Xavier so low in the net, did they schedule that poorly out of conference?

my guess is that the close wins over TX Southern and SC State aren't doing them any favors with the computers.

 

[auror]

That's what stood out to me as well. Seton Hall is a dumpster fire, but the middle and back end of the conference is better than last year. Some more opportunities this week (like Xavier against Cincinnati).

Big East had 9 last year, so 8 would be 1 less. But it's enough for us to get whatever seed we deserve if we take care of our business going forward, especially because the bottom is much better this year than last. Seton Hall is horrid relative to standards for a regular Big East, but they're not close to as bad as DePaul last year. They beat a good VCU team.

 

[auror]

Surprising to see Xavier so low in the net, did they schedule that poorly out of conference?

Torvik's game score (the G-SC column on far right) is a good approximation for single game performance relative to model expectation (there's some game script additional info included that only Torvik's model cares about, so more accurate for T-Rank than KenPom for example). You want pretty much every game in the 80+ with a lot of 90s (and 95+'s if you want to be a top 5 team). Their Michigan performance was the worst. Sc St, IU Indy, and Tx Southern not good either. Those 4 games were all worse performances than any of our losses this year (46 is our worst score this year so far).

 

[REB1094]

Honestly, I don't really care about the total number since there's such a gap between offense and defense. We could have the #1 ORtg but if we are in the 90s for DRtg, then I won't consider us a real March contender. This is a work in progress and it'll be really interesting to see how high Hurley can get this team to by the end of the season

For reference, here is where each champion ended:

• 2024 UConn: #1 ORtg, #4 DRtg
• 2023 UConn: #3 ORtg, #7 DRtg
• 2022 Kansas: #6 ORtg, #17 DRtg
• 2021 Baylor: #2 ORtg, #22 DRtg (that is surprising if I'm remembering that Baylor defense correctly, they were lockdown)
• 2019 Virginia: #2 ORtg, #5 DRtg