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Can you blame them. Everybody in the world knows that the remaining BE football schools are bolting at the 1st opportunity.
Why would the service academies & Boise wish to get involved with a terminally ill conference.
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I believe the service academies might have lost interest.
Boise to the PAC-12 is sad. Independents? Sounds like a threat to keep the buyout low and media rights loose enough for teams with a rabid local following like UConn to cut some side deals.
Boise to the PAC-12 is sad. Independents? Sounds like a threat to keep the buyout low and media rights loose enough for teams with a rabid local following like UConn to cut some side deals.
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Any efforts to fill the conference will stall now based on the BCS talk of eliminating automatic qualifiers. No automatic qualifier = no reason for anyone to move.
That is specific to the current situation, by the way. Yes, all other realignment was driven by TV $, I realize that. The carrot that the Big East could offer in expansion was the chance for an autobid conference.
That is specific to the current situation, by the way. Yes, all other realignment was driven by TV $, I realize that. The carrot that the Big East could offer in expansion was the chance for an autobid conference.
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First off, I don't associate "rabid local following" to the UConn fan base. We have a good solid group of fans, but definitely not rabid - unless the team is competing for a national championship. Fair weathered, yes. Rabid, only occassionally.
Second, The UH, UCF, SMU, and Boise's would join the BE for the TV contract alone. Even if it's not as good as the current deal (which I believe it will be better), it's still a significant upgrade to what these schools have today. It gets them on national TV more, it pays them a lot more. AQ status or not, the move does make them a lot more guarenteed money year over year. BYU is another story.
My preference, to be candid, is that us and Rutger go together to either the ACC or B1G, and USF, Cinci, and UL get an invite to the B12 (along with UCF, Houston, and one other to get them to 16 teams), and Boise and BYU somehow find their way ino the P12.
Second, The UH, UCF, SMU, and Boise's would join the BE for the TV contract alone. Even if it's not as good as the current deal (which I believe it will be better), it's still a significant upgrade to what these schools have today. It gets them on national TV more, it pays them a lot more. AQ status or not, the move does make them a lot more guarenteed money year over year. BYU is another story.
My preference, to be candid, is that us and Rutger go together to either the ACC or B1G, and USF, Cinci, and UL get an invite to the B12 (along with UCF, Houston, and one other to get them to 16 teams), and Boise and BYU somehow find their way ino the P12.
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Correction: They wanted no part of Oklahoma WITHOUT Texas
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It is your last sentence that makes your second point very difficult to achieve. If Uconn, RU, Ville, Cinci and USF are all willing to bolt, then why would there be any TV contract? The TV guys are not going to give a contract to a conference that can lose its top FB TV markets if someone comes a callin. Any TV contract will have some big reduction clauses for any lost members, so if you are any school looking at the BE, you probably need to consider that and what the long term increased TV payout is versus the very real costs associated with this cross country venture. And if you are the BB schools, why would you allow the FB schools to push Houston, SMU, UCF, Boise or any other school into the conference for full membership when the foundation of the BB confernence clearly want to leave?
There have been no formal invites from the BE to anyone. No formal announcements or press releases from anyone associated with the Big East. Anyone want to guess why? I have an idea and it involves a lack of commitment by Uconn, RU, Lville and Cinci. None of the schools can really be embracing the rumored schools beyond Army and Navy and maybe UCF.
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If true, than that's sad. That means the bullies won.
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So who still thinks beign a basketball power means anything? My biggest concern has been that if kansas could almost be left in the dark, UCONN certainly could, and it looks like it might happen. Not sure how it would work out, but maybe playing as an indepednent for a few years, with a local tv contract would be possible.
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Thanks for the link. He obviously is "hearing" thevsame things about the military academies that we've known since the end of September. Gladchuk/navy have a good thing going right now with their cbs tv deal, schedule, etc. The beat writer has been steadfast in his reporting that is a 50/50 chance. Boise may want the pac 12 (and the Big 12); however if Scott Gray thinks the Pac 12 would invite Boise State he is an idiot.
The academics of Boise State are laughable, not to mention all their other sports suck big time. They have no shot at the Pac 12.
The academics of Boise State are laughable, not to mention all their other sports suck big time. They have no shot at the Pac 12.
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UConn gets into the Pac 12 before Boise. Other than football, it offers nothing. The other sports are dreadful. The academics are dreadful. There is no research. There is no meaningful media market. There are several schools in the region which would be added before Boise.
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If you gave Eastern Connecticut State a national calibre football program, it would be more desireable to the Pac than Bosie.
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I live on the West Coast and there is no way in hell that the Pac-12 offers Boise State. Their Commissioner is satisfied with what they got, and they're certainly not going to lower their academics to entertain Boise State's needs. Boise State has nothing to offer the Pac-12. This is laughable, at best!
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So since we all agree Scott is smoking some might strong stuff if he thinks Boise has a chance at the Pac 12 (to be fair, he said they prefer it...well of course they would), how much of the rest is just bunk? I suspect that the news about the academies, is, if not new, probably accurate. I don't think they're coming.
What about the rest? Is the whole thing dead or just in a holding pattern?
What about the rest? Is the whole thing dead or just in a holding pattern?
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I think the part about the academies has the strongest possibility of being true but I think the rest is pretty much a wrong and wild guess. I don't think any current Big East members are going indy and we all know that Boise isn't going to the Pac 12, or at least we should all realize that. I think that without the academies this new league still works pretty well with adding Boise, Houston, SMU, UCF, and hopefully BYU. Adding those 4 or 5 schools is really all that matters in all of this.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...-usa-members-ucf-president-john-hitt-big-east
UCF's President confirmed pretty much confirmed over the weekend that all 3 CUSA schools are coming and are ready to announce whenever they get the green light fromthe league. The hold up is BYU and to a lesser extent Boise because they are waiting on BYU or another western team.
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Scott Gray? I can't recall anything he's said in the last 10 years that was worth listening to, but I freely admit that I may have missed something.
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Yet Boise is the best bet for the BE? And with Boise in the BE, the TV contract will be the biggest and bestest yet (according to some posters). Everything you wrote about Boise and the Pac12 applies to Boise and the BE.
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Except the fact that Pac 12 is stable and has a great contract, and the BE is falling apart and desperate. If we don't acknowledge that the Big East reaching across the Rockies to try to get Boise St. is an act of desperation, we're not being honest. And for those foolish enough to think that current football rankings are the measure of a program, explain how Colorado got the Pac 12 invite over Boise St.? The BE was smart enough to recognize that TCU was far more appealing overall than Boise St., but unfortunately, the Big XII is more appealing than the Big East.
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