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1/12: NET 25, KenPom: 25

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NET: 25
KenPom: 25
BPI: 12

I know people are upset at DeCoursey and Lunardi, but right now our metrics are in the 5 seed range. The good news? A lof of the teams in front of us are going to beat each other up in the SEC, Big Ten, and Big 12. Keep winning, and our numbers will improve. We have 6 games left against good teams in Marquette/St. John's/Creighton.

Offense is 5 in KenPom, defense is 112. Was 134 to begin the week. 7-4 in Q1/Q2 games.

Notable teams:

Gonzaga: NET:11/KenPom: 9/BPI: 9
Baylor: NET: 19/KenPom: 18/BPI: 11
Texas: NET: 40/KenPom: 39/BPI: 23

Rest of the Big East:

NET:

12. Marquette
25. UConn
28. St. John's
50. Villanova
54. Creighton
62. Xavier
70. Georgetown
83. Providence
88. Butler
131. DePaul
180. Seton Hall

KenPom:

11. Marquette
19. St. John's
25. UConn
44. Creighton
46. Villanova
54. Xavier
63. Georgetown
84. Providence
86. Butler
125. DePaul
151. Seton Hall

BPI:

12. Uconn
14. Marquette
24. St. John's
31. Creighton
39. Villanova
51. Xavier
71. Butler
72. Providence
73. Georgetown
109. DePaul
114. Seton Hall
 
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BPI seems more realistic where we are. I feel like we should be a solid 3 seed at the moment. I don’t think there’s more than 8-12 teams better than us right now.
 
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I think the frustrating thing is over the last three games we could have done so much more to improve those metrics:

Providence, up 77-65 with 1:46 to go, win by 3
Villanova, blew it at the end
Georgetown, up 23 with 6:55 to go, win by 8

Should be much higher in the rankings. With McNeeley out my mindset is just to win games but we haven't done ourselves any favors for March these past few games.
 
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I think the frustrating thing is over the last three games we could have done so much more to improve those metrics:

Providence, up 77-65 with 1:46 to go, win by 3
Villanova, blew it at the end
Georgetown, up 23 with 6:55 to go, win by 8

Should be much higher in the rankings. With McNeeley out my mindset is just to win games but we haven't done ourselves any favors for March these past few games.
The “kill the clock” offense is so painful to watch and tbh I don’t really understand why we do it. Our normal offense takes 20-25 seconds to run anyways. What is the benefit of just dribbling around for 25 seconds and then heaving up a terrible shot? Sure it bleeds the clock the same way our normal offense does, but it kills the spreadsheet math which does make a difference when you are on the edge of a seed line in the NCAAT.

We scored 4 points in the final 8 minutes yesterday. We made a 25 point blowout look like a close game because we just decided to dribble around and get 3 shot clock violations in a row.
 

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I think the frustrating thing is over the last three games we could have done so much more to improve those metrics:

Providence, up 77-65 with 1:46 to go, win by 3
Villanova, blew it at the end
Georgetown, up 23 with 6:55 to go, win by 8

Should be much higher in the rankings. With McNeeley out my mindset is just to win games but we haven't done ourselves any favors for March these past few games.

In the post-RPI world, style points matter.
 
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There’s no consideration of us missing one our 2 best players? Fine. This is why I don’t follow this crap even when we were number 2.
 

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NET: 25
KenPom: 25
BPI: 12

I know people are upset at DeCoursey and Lunardi, but right now our metrics are in the 5 seed range.

I personally would have no problem if we are a five seed in this year's tournament as we still have that open on our bingo card:

One Seed - 1999; 2024
Two Seed - 2004
Three Seed - 2011
Four Seed - 2023
Seven Seed - 2014

We still need five, seven and eight.

Give us a five seed and let the four seed and one seed in our bracket soil their pants on selection Sunday.
 
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I think the frustrating thing is over the last three games we could have done so much more to improve those metrics:

Providence, up 77-65 with 1:46 to go, win by 3
Villanova, blew it at the end
Georgetown, up 23 with 6:55 to go, win by 8

Should be much higher in the rankings. With McNeeley out my mindset is just to win games but we haven't done ourselves any favors for March these past few games.
This is why metrics are only so valuable. No team should be punished, and betters only care about whether you cover rather than whether you win, based on whether you stop playing hard once the game is virtually over. We’ve seen the last two years Hurley teams are willing to stop playing hard, and let leads slip, after the game is won. Not worth getting upset about. The Committee will either figure it out or they won’t.
 
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Based on their body of work to date these rankings are reasonable.

But do I think there are one of 8 to 10 teams with legit chance to win it all? Yes. Just about all of the problems we see - and there are a few - are fixable. Biggest question is can they defend and rebound at a championship level when it counts, and I think the parts are there to make it happen. Just less of a margin for error than in the past 2 years.
 

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I personally would have no problem if we are a five seed in this year's tournament as we still have that open on our bingo card:

One Seed - 1999; 2024
Two Seed - 2004
Three Seed - 2011
Four Seed - 2023
Seven Seed - 2014

We still need five, seven and eight.

Give us a five seed and let the four seed and one seed in our bracket soil their pants on selection Sunday.
Five, six, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and play in game.
 
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I personally would have no problem if we are a five seed in this year's tournament as we still have that open on our bingo card:

One Seed - 1999; 2024
Two Seed - 2004
Three Seed - 2011
Four Seed - 2023
Seven Seed - 2014

We still need five, seven and eight.

Give us a five seed and let the four seed and one seed in our bracket soil their pants on selection Sunday.
There’s no consideration of us missing one our 2 best players? Fine. This is why I don’t follow this crap even when we were number 2.
I think we’ll be forgiven if we can start humming with Liam back and win a few of those key games against the top half of the BE, particularly on the road. The good news is we can likely work our way back up, with the goal being a 3 seed in the East. We can earn our way back up and it starts with Creighton next game. The Marquette matchups will obviously have significant bearing.

What we should hope for is the Auburns and Iowa Sts (and all 1/2 seed candidates) to keep beating teams we will be battling the 3 seed with. Let them have their 1s and 2s as we aren’t getting that high anyway. For instance the Texas Tech loss to ISU yesterday likely helped out cause. I’d be all for taking on a 2 seed Kansas in Newark in the S16.
 

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