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I guess, if you are in pain, you react to the word “painless “. I was actually thinking of the ease that the Borg have had consolidating and pushing their agenda.

The cartel captured the CFP. The media money….and no kickback yet that worries them.

Painlessly for the perpetrators. No law suits. No sweat for the B1G and SEC.

He really said "keeping the Big Four together"......UNC, Wake, Duke, NC State..... ACC think...not bad for basketball though.

It is indeed thinning the herd...Actuallythe herd was thinned thinned it a ways back, almost painlessly... First P5 and G5...then P4...then P2 I think that the Big 12 may go the opposite way. Try to take UConn, Duke, Virginia...and be the premier basketball conference.

The problem with UConn’s resume is that it points to an 8-5 year and a blowout bowl as the primo year. You get more latitude when you finish top 10 once…more so for multiple appearances.

She wouldn't contact the North Carolia group...the AG reps the voters...and North Carolina and their four ACC teams have a lot invested in the conference. Cuse and Boston College may seen as "captives" since the ACC may be their best spot...they may have an interest in holding the ACC...

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

Yeah. Another personal attack. Bye now

Nah. The players opted out. And I can’t blame them. We’ll see more nfl bound opt outs in the future.

FSU's team decided a big blah was due (why play?)...half the starters didn't go to the bowl, the QB's didn't go...leaving a third string true freshman to play. Only Michigan and Washington had more players invited to the NFL Combine. Those missing starters were the team.

"what's your call on the flag?" "false start..I saw a twitch..didn't you ?"

And a lot of FSU guys thought it was a good day for FSU...three issues heard,,,two ruled in favor of FSU...the third, personal jurisdiction...is postponed. The judge said "amend the filing to be more specific on the issue and we'll reconvene. He even instructed FSU lawyers on what he wanted to...

Right. End result is same.

Looking OK for FSU so far...judge held for fSU on two out of three issues and the third issue will be argued after an amended filing. Judge Cooper is being diligent. Re what this means in terms of settlement ? Who knows. The case has not really begun...nobody has been disposed, no records...

2 pm... Cooper reiterating that this is not a dismissal of the case, but a "dismissal with leave to amend." He says that is very common in civil cases and doesn't mean anything in the big picture. Just that he wants the FSU attorneys to file a more clear amended complaint. But it does mean a...

...ACC attorney is reiterating her argument that FSU's complaint doesn't meet the requirements for "long-arm statute" for personal jurisdiction. ...Judge Cooper is ruling that FSU will have to amend its complaint to make a clear statement of personal jurisdiction. Makes it clear that he’s not...

I think that FSU wants Judge Cooper to rule that the GOR says what both FSU and the ACC agree it says: that ESPN has no right to broadcast a member's home games once that member leaves the acc. That would, inherently, mean that the GOR no longer applies to the withdrawing member, as the GOR...

...Judge Cooper is bringing up cases in Florida where people came together to hold meetings and conduct business in Florida. One where people agreed to financially support a pro golfer, and he would then split proceeds with them. The golfer lived in Florida, so the case was decided in Florida...

No school signed nor had access to the ESPN Agreement...nor is a direct party to it. The ACC contracted with ESPN and then said.."guys, it's a secret, but believe us when we tell you the gist of it".

Harvard law paper on GOR enforcibility....for law weenies.. https://www.troutman.com/a/web/344419/Wilhelm.pdf

...The ACC attorneys are now arguing that FSU's case shouldn't be handled in Leon County because FSU hasn't established that this is the proper jurisdiction. ... Judge Cooper asking for clarity of the ACC's argument.

....Can't give play-by-play. But basically, FSU's attorney is arguing why the Grant of Rights doesn't really bind FSU. He's saying that FSU leaving does not stop the ACC from having a TV deal with ESPN. "Bottom line ... the ESPN agreement does not extend to the home games Florida State plays...

....FSU lawyer finally bringing ACC's self-arguments against them and pointing out the GOR is limited solely to the ESPN Agreement AND that the ACC argued in court that ESPN has no rights to FSU games after FSU leaves. ACC admits that ESPN has no rights to FSU games after FSU leaves (they claim...

courthouse...updates ...The ACC attorney saying FSU's lawsuit is asking the court to do something that is "improper." She's saying the judge doesn't have the authority to do what FSU is asking him to do -- to give an opinion on a contract when FSU hasn't even decided if it is going to leave...

I guess that I'll be checking for look in updates from the Tallahassee court house today... Shoot ! I remember when updates from the Tallahassee courthouse meant something different....the good ole days.

Fundamental lack of understanding of the GOR/ESPN contract and ACC By Laws/Constitution you have.... The GOR is a fairly simple piece...but it does not stand alone...it speaks of "rights" being granted only for the ACC to meet their contract obligations with ESPN.... Now, with those...

Hang together or hang separately

more from UNC BOT Chair... "I think that what Clemson is doing is 100 percent proof positive that a significant portion of the membership of the conference is unhappy,” UNC Board of Trustees chair John Preyer told Inside Carolina on Wednesday. “I don't see how it is in anyone's interest for the...

As the UNC Chair of their BOT stated... "I think this shows that what is supposed to be a member-based organization is not being led in a way that represents the best interests of all the members, but instead, it's really representing the bottom tier of the membership at the expense of the top...

And...since the GOR is available and clearly states that a Member grants their rights to the conference solely to meet the requirements of the ESPN Agreement...it is becoming clear why the ACC has been obfuscating... No Member has a contract with ESPN..the only link is the contract between the...

HUH ? How about being hoodwinked by a conference staff protecting their jobs ? Maybe fraudulently ? The last numerous years the ACC spread the story that the ACC GOR was not only ironclad but also had an end date of 2036. The ACC also spread stories that the ESPN agreement had an end date of...

There was no GOR when Maryland left...just the $50 million Exit Fee,,,

In a nutshell, if the ACC loses and the GOR is invalidated, ESPN may not renew the ESPN-ACC Agreement in 2027 and the ACC could go the way of the PAC 12. If the ACC settles with Clemsom/FSU, then the ACC may survive.

But...the national narrative seems to be changing. From the narrative that the GOR is an ironclad, unbreakable, no parole sentence to maybe the ACC will lose teams. FSU charged recklessly like the Light Brigade against the cannons. The cannons of public opinion from the left of them, from the...