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yeah usually when you “rebuild” you get better not worse. Good thing Ollie “cleaned house” and got rid of all the bad apples who aren’t willing to put “10 toes in”. Clearly they were the problem. Glad we solved that issue. He is such a joke it is honestly unbelievable at this point.

Trae young is ridiculous. 26 pts and 10 assts at halftime.

Just ran the numbers because I was curious. Here they are: So, we weren't actually playing much/any better with AG. Level of competition has actually gone down without him but the numbers aren't much different. We are actually averaging more assists without him; turnovers are also up...

funny, i actually thought about it after the post and thought maybe your suggestion would be our only hope. pretty much only hope is to get ayton into foul trouble.

Yeah, I don't think that is going to work out well. We will get absolutely destroyed inside defensively and on the boards. And offensively, we will get even more drives from Terry, which means more balls dribbled off his legs/feet and more turnovers, ramping up the pace of the game and...

It’s not innuendo. It’s actual real quantifiable (lack of) results that people are reacting to.

BUT ITS ALL THE CONFERENCES FAULT. DUHHHHHH

One person said something bad when I posted that. Try to catch up

I agree. People on here act like there are no good coaches out there from smaller programs. Or that we have no shot at landing a good coach. Which is ironic because the same people labeling others as “haters” for being realistic about ko’s performance are the ones who apparently think our...

Did I mock you at all? I wasn't trying to be confrontational. I am interested in having a discussion. So you wont answer a single one of those simple questions? I have shared my views on here. Read this thread to get some of them. I am asking for yours. Why can't you answer any of those...

I see you call people out a lot. You support KO and I respect that. Rather than argue back and forth about it, I will ask you directly. 1. What gives you your optimism? 2.Which areas related to coaching do you think KO is doing a good job at (offense, defense, roster management...

Nobody is calling for KO to get canned because of recruiting rankings. People are calling for him to get canned because we stink and his teams have the same flaws every single year.

Logically it makes no sense. "The conference stinks and is killing our program and recruiting" is the argument. BUT, we have been recruiting at a much higher level than our conference foes, while also failing to win the conference, much less dominate it. Finishing in 5th or 6th and under...

Yeah, I didn't see that one when I posted it. So there was one. Mostly everything else is positive.

right, but we aren't standing still. we are moving backwards.

Who has said anything negative about these kids in this thread?? There is a quote function. Go ahead and point it out to us please.

This is what makes me nervous. I know rankings don't always mean much. And the tape/write-ups for all these kids looks/sounds good. But KO's track record with developing guys isn't exactly the best. And how we've done so far with guys in this range isn't exactly great. Guys like Facey...

We actually have gotten recruits ranked higher than this. But we didn't do much/anything with them. So now we don't.

are we stuck though? we seem to be moving backwards

Still waiting for you to make an actual valid point on all of this. Not sure if you intentionally play dumb or what because all you do these days is contradict yourself. You’re entire stance with ko is “let’s just wait and see what happens. I can’t give you any actual reasons as to why I...

Also, we NEED him badly.

Yeah, because I definitely believe that it's going to happen. Definitely wasn't joking and playing into Chief's exaggerated vision of things.

We don't need the next Roy Williams. Roy Williams isn't the next tier up from KO. There are a lot of tiers between KO and that level. We just need to find a guy somewhere in between. Its funny that you brought up Indiana, because it doesn't support your stance at all. They got rid of Davis...

Man you are the king of deflection. And to answer: Nope. And right back at ya: Would UNC have achieved greatness if it kept Guthridge (or Doherty) around???

Saw on reddit a fan of the team and inhabitant of the "city". Here is what he said: -The coach doesn't speak any English. -Absolutely no nightlife- no bars, restaurants, clubs, not even a movie theatre. poster said the entertainment is locals go to a small pizza shop and watch the basketball...

Exactly what we are proposing to do. Does this fact (the coaching changes) support your stance (give ollie time) or contradict it?

Imagine JC starts sending more guys to the NBA from D3 St. Joe's than we do. YIKES.

Five Players From D3 Schools Who Made it to the NBA correct on terry porter. Brad Stevens made the jump from coaching D3 to the NBA so maybe JC can be #2 in a few years at the ripe old age of 78.

Carlton another positive but how does he only get 13 min? 5 pts 7 boards in only 13 min. And only 2 fouls. Why waste 10 min on a 5th year grad transfer who we all know by now just isn’t cut out for this level? Why not give Carlton who actually shows some promise and is the future of our...

We continue to set new levels of ineptitude every year (and month now it seems). That’s one thing ko has going for him.....

Yeah i know. That’s why I said that in my posts. Haha. I know you were just agreeing with me but your post is basically hey did you know that mau does exactly what you just said he does? Thought it was funny not being a jerk.

Yes i am overly negative but that’s because there is nothing positive to talk about. When there is I️ mention it. I️ attack the positive Posts because I feelnlike it. I “attack” them because they are crappy arguments. I will attack crappy arguments that are negative too. The positive posts...

Definitely part of it. But Compare to cinci. Guaranteed it doesn’t look anything close to this.

He had that. And he ran them all out of town. We haven't had any roster stability whatsoever since he took over. Not all his fault since we were thin when he took over. I thought we finally achieved some stability last year with our class, but they all left. I'm not saying Enoch, Durham...

The post was probably tongue in cheek, but the opinion is probably serious. I don't think he actually wants recruits to de-commit and go elsewhere. If you were giving honest advice to a recruit, would you really advise them that this is the best place for them to develop?