Who has the most talent on the DL Yanks, Sox or Rays?

The Adam Dunn who has a .374 lifetime OBP? The guy who has walked over a 100 times in a season 7 times? But he swings at everything huh?

Adam Jones last 3 seasons...pretty consistent with gold glove level D. It's not crazy to assume he will have a career year this season at 26.
2009: .277/.335/.457
2010: .284/.325/.442
2011: .280/.319/.466
I could care less if Lackey has been hurt for the 60 starts he's made as a Red Sox. His ERA has gone up for 5 straight years. He has thrown 1800+ innings and is an old out of shape 33. I hope he does work his way back he gives my team a better chance of beating Boston.

Lackey has 3 years left on his deal at 46 mil. I'm sure teams are beating down Ben's door to pick him up. This guy makes AJ Burnett look like Bob Gibson.

Whatever Sinkhole, clearly we'll never see eye-to-eye on this matter. But as far as the original question goes, it's clearly the Red Sox. If you want a real unbiased, tweet a sports reporter. I guarantee you they'll tell you the Sox are more depleted.

Not saying the loss of Lackey is why the Sox are in last place. You keep straying from your original post about who had more talent on the DK. You just keep changing the topic of this tread to get under everones skin.

compare 2010, the last year both pitchers were healty.
GS IP W L ERA WHIP HR BB k
Lackey 33 215 14 11 4.40 1.42 18 72 156
Niemann 30 174 12 8 4.39 1.26 25 61 131

Seems pretty close to me. So one can't be a good #5 starter and the other a bumb. Now I kown you'll go to the contract, but were not talking about salary, were talking about talent on the DL. Sox blow away Ray in that catagory.

Why go back to 2010? How about a couple weeks ago when Niemann gave up one run to the Yanks in 7 innings? Niemann was pitching well this year in his 7 starts he has an era of 3.38. Niemann is clearly a more valuable pitcher then the washed up Lackey and DiceK. Funny the way everyone in the nation wanted Lackey gone last year now all of a sudden he has value?

so you agree the sox have more talent on the DL?

I'm not so sure perhaps. What does the RS Dl look like right now?

The Yanks are still missing a potentail ace in Pineada, the best closer of all time, a young fireballer in Robertson, Gadner who is a solid LFer.

here is Tb's

C: Jose Lobaton/Robinson Chirinos
1B: Brandon Allen
2B: Jeff Keppinger
3B: Evan Longoria
LF: Sam Fuld
CF: Desmond Jennings
RF: Brandon Guyer
SP: Jeff Niemann
RP: Kyle Farnsworth

Lol, Sinkhole. You criticize us picking stats and then you pick one game from Niemann against one of the most mediocre offenses (yes, that's you Yankees fans). Hypocritcal much? Oh yeah, sorry I temporarily forgot that you tend to be a hypocrite and usually dig yourself into a pretty big hole.

What was the topic of this thread? Yeah, that's what I thought.

LOLOLOL!!! Potential ace in Pineada...yeah, cool story bro. I mean, maybe you can think that if you cherry pick his first half stats last year.

C: Jose Lobaton/Robinson Chirinos Total 81 ml at bats - combined backups
1B: Brandon Allen what, a 200 career hitter?
2B: Jeff Keppinger utlity guy
3B: Evan Longoria All Star... big miss here.L
F: Sam Fuld .244 hitter last year, his best year
CF: Desmond Jennings .253 career hitter. maybe good someday
RF: Brandon Guyer 8 AB's
SP: Jeff Niemann #5 starter.
RP: Kyle Farnsworth journey man setup man gone closer

C'mon, the Sox are missing almost 3 teams worth of OFs.

We are talking quality not quanity. List the Sox guys and i will give you my opinion.

Ellsbury = Longo
Crawford > Fuld
Ross > Jennings (jennings may have bright future, but present is .253 career)
Sweeny > Allen
Kalish = both your catchers since only one backup at a time behind the great molina
Bailey >= Farnsworth
Youk > Keppinger (Youk was back, but on DL when this thread started. Kep playing when thread started)
#5 starter (Dice or Lak) = #5 starter Niemann. but don't want to go through that crap, so just take this one.

We are not gonna agree on this my friend.

Thats fair...

The bottom line is this and it's really this simple. If anyone thinks Crawford will return anywhere close to the player he was his whole career before 2011, than there's no discussion to be had. An Ellsbury/Crawford/Bailey trio can't be matched by any team, let alone the other injuries the Sox have had this year.

Longo-Farnsworth-Jennings