WaPo: Sally Jenkins says Mulkey dropped the ball...

They live in both places. There are two actions involved one the breaking the rules by KM and the other that of the NCAA accepting the report. Both are wrong. When the NCAA has the opportunity to take action and make it clear that certain behaviors are unacceptable then it is, also, the guiding bodies fault. Without the NCAA taking action why should any program assume they can't do the exact same thing. Politics plain and simple.

In this case it fit like a glove.

CF...I am very selective as to the sources of my moral outrage!!! I use age and personal quirks as a foundation for such.

Plus, cf, remember that all that was done was dialing the phone and giving the Moore's access to an office phone. The issue was it is not a service available to the whole student body therefore it was inappropriate. Personally, I would have been disappointed if someone didn't allow a student to use an office phone for a moment although in this day and age of cells it is less likely to be necessary.

Its not, and its not. This post and your comment earlier in the thread highlight what to me are a disturbing element of this sorry affair. You seem to think this is really no big deal. I can't put the blame for that all on you, because the NCAA response opened the door for that attitude. How can you or anyone else read Sally Jenkins' article and say well, this is old news, nothing to see here folks? Do you get that this was no isolated indiscretion but a long-term policy to violate the rules big-time, to gain a long-term recruiting advantage? If smart fans of a good program don't care enough about the sport to see both sport and program took a real hit here, that is sad. Somehow I don't think that if something similar were exposed about Geno's program, the fan reaction would be so blase'. But then we have a lot more to love here than a few championships.

i did not know that. what was the other violation for Tennessee?

No, what's unfortunate is that the issue is far from over and done with. Mulkey & Co. have done a great job of setting precedent for years to come regarding how to bend the rules of recruiting, and the NCAA has shown the rest of the country that all it results in is a slap on the wrist.

What's most sickening to me is the GG point made in the article. It literally may have affected the job of another high-profile professional within the game that, as far as we know, made sure to abide by the rules. The only reason this is acceptable to you is because you are on the side taking the heat. If you flipped Baylor with Texas, and Mulkey was the one fired after GG led Texas to an undefeated NC, you would be livid.

One other thing, ETT, is that Kim and her staff KNOWINGLY broke the rules. Kim knew she shouldn't have been having inappropriate contact with Griner's family, in spite of the excuse that her kid was playing too. she used her daughter as a pawn to get closer to Brit's family. Additionally, you must believe she and her staff knew exactly what, when, and how often texts and contact with recruits was allowed. over 1,000 is not some inadvertent accident.

so now, Kim has the unfortunate stigma as cheater extraordinaire. Heck, there's zero evidence Geno has EVER cheated or done anything untoward to get a recruit (Maya specifically) but that doesn't stop some orange fans from screaming into the wind that Geno's a cheater. now we have actual proof that Kim went off the rails.

You'd get way more mileage in here if you admitted it was slimy, sneaky, against the rules, and that she knew full well what she was doing. which is true. And now she's going to pay the price FOREVER for her indiscretions. Cheater is a moniker that will follow her around for the rest of her career...

i'm not saying Mulkey is Satan, or should be fired. i do agree the punishment does not fit the crime, but that's the NCAA. but in the court of public opinion, she's clearly a loser on this one.

Exactly, it was wrong then, too, it is always quid pro quo. That is why I think the staffing rule I suggested is important and a good first step.

The problem is that, indeed, all she and Baylor received was a slap on the wrist, and the reduction of a couple of scholarships that most D-1 coaches don't use anyway....

Since the NCAA will not deal with it it is up to the fans to voice their discontent. Every game next year Mulkey should be greeted with cheers of "cheater" when she takes the court until she stands up and takes ownership of her real actions. The walk of shame at the start of each game.

None of it is the kids' fault and how can one expect integrity from kids when this is the example. It is all Mulkey's alone and she needs to own the whole thing.

ran out of gas long ago in my book... but Im just a bypasser. Showing off that new car with the shiny wheels, smling from ear to ear but sitting on the side of the road... out of gas!

does Mulkey have any other young daughters coming up in the AAU circuits?

who's next KB-A, Jen R, Caldwell,...

Two Points:

1)Taken from the NCAA report. The paragraph I posted was from the Introduction section of the report, linked here: http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/pdfs/2012/baylor+public+inf+report

This was the institution's sixth major infractions case, the institution having appeared before the committee most recently in 2005 for a case involving the men's basketball and football programs.
As a result of its 2005 case, the institution is considered a "repeat violator" under NCAA Bylaw 19.5.2.1.1.

Yet based on the above they let Baylor pick its punishment, like Andy Griffith let Otis come and go when he was drunk in Mayberry.

2) Also from the Introduction part of the NCAA report, linked above.
Information about potential violations in this case first came to light during an October 26, 2008, interview conducted by the enforcement staff with then prospective student-athlete ("prospect 1") and the prospect's father.
The NCAA took three and a half years to make a decision on what to do? They basically let Baylor and Ms Mulkey have three free years to win a championship with the top player in WBB, before coming down "hard" on Baylor. Geez, if ND had beat Baylor would they have waited one more year before deciding what to do?

I did not realize it was Baylor's sixth time with major infractions before the NCAA. That makes the response and handling of this completely unacceptable. Also, Nan, mentioned early on the issue of institutional control. Were there any penalties in toto for that issue?

As I said early on when the report first surfaced, none of this passes the smell test. I challenge anyone to name another program that had SIX players from the same AAU team on its roster. The real rogue in all of this may well be McKinney but Mulkey exhibited exceedingly poor judgement as well. (And that's being kind.) Throwing some nameless, faceless compliance official under the bus just doesn't cut it.

Yeah, that's a really grown up response.

OMG seriously? well i dislike Tennessee as much as the next fan, but that seems a little over the top. i wonder how it even got reported. maybe another non-hoops student complained?