Uconn's time may be near....

[nelsonmuntz]

FSU has not even been discussed by the Big 12 as far as expansion: http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews...sources-despite-rumors-florida-state-has.html

Hm, better cancel those moving vans in Tallahassee.

Looks like the moving vans are already being packed.

New rumor is Maryland has asked WVU for help to get them in the Big 12. Maybe the vaunted ACC loyalty is not absolute.

 

[docsu]

Looks like the moving vans are already being packed.

New rumor is Maryland has asked WVU for help to get them in the Big 12. Maybe the vaunted ACC loyalty is not absolute.

Sounds legit.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Looks like the moving vans are already being packed.

New rumor is Maryland has asked WVU for help to get them in the Big 12. Maybe the vaunted ACC loyalty is not absolute.

Where is this rumor being reported?

 

[WestHartHusk]

FSU has not even been discussed by the Big 12 as far as expansion: http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews...sources-despite-rumors-florida-state-has.html

Hm, better cancel those moving vans in Tallahassee.

Man is news moving fast:

Dan Wetzel‏@DanWetzel on twitter
Big 12 source on whether league would be interested in Florida State. "I can't imagine how we wouldn't be interested in Florida State."

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Hell freezes over. Carl Spackler finds himself speechless. Dan tries the shift key...and likes it.

Getting a little chilly in Hades this afternoon.

 

[Fishy]

Getting a little chilly in Hades this afternoon.

The Big East would be interested in Florida State, too. I'll tweet it - that'll make it so.

 

[UConnDan97]

The Big East would be interested in Florida State, too. I'll tweet it - that'll make it so.

I'm not following (not that that's important). Is your joke trying to say that the Big12 is not interested in Florida State, or that Florida State is not interested in the Big12? Based on a lot of information that has floated around in the last four hours involving the chairman of their board and their coach, I would say that the latter is clearly not true.

 

[RS9999X]

The Athletic Department deficit gives the Football backers some clout. FSU needs tens of millions for improvements. You know some of the backers are going to hold back unless they perform due diligence.

FSU is the Big Revenue Fish in the small pond of the ACC. This is a good set up for approaching the B12 and SEC. It's going to happen.

http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1362072

 

[huskypantz]

Where is this rumor being reported?

There's a dude on the WVU board that posted it. He's throwing out rumors left and right. He has another one that VT contacted the SEC.

 

[jdb50]

We should contact the Big 12. I'd rather see those programs at the Rent than the ACC schools. Add L'ville, UConn and Rutgers to Big 12 with F State and maybe ND and it's got alot of upside.

 

[Kevin Caliendo]

ND is probably sitting backs saying...let's get rid of FSU and Clemson and VaTech, then we can join the ACC and maybe even win it!

 

[Fishy]

I'm not following (not that that's important). Is your joke trying to say that the Big12 is not interested in Florida State, or that Florida State is not interested in the Big12? Based on a lot of information that has floated around in the last four hours involving the chairman of their board and their coach, I would say that the latter is clearly not true.

I hope to the high heavens that Swofford has to stand watch as his conference parades out the front door - I truly do.

But some fits and starts and a temper tantrum from a BOT member doesn't quite move the needle far enough for me.

 

[TRest]

I hope to the high heavens that Swofford has to stand watch as his conference parades out the front door - I truly do.

But some fits and starts and a temper tantrum from a BOT member doesn't quite move the needle far enough for me.

Check out that Wetzel story on Yahoo. ACC teams only getting 1 million bump next year, they won't see the full 4 million increase for years because the contract is backloaded. Supposedly the new contract was viewed as anywhere from disappointing to disastrous in ACC circles, and they are worried FSU can't afford to stay.

 

[Fishy]

I actually just read it.

Hopefully, we get to watch someone else suffer for a change.

 

[zls44]

I actually just read it.

Hopefully, we get to watch someone else suffer for a change.

It just breaks my heart.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Do we really want to go to the ACC with that crappy deal? We might want to see what BE can get on the open market first before we make that decision. ACC is screwed for the next 15 years with that deal. 15 years is a long time in this conference realignment thing.

 

[Dann]

Do we really want to go to the ACC with that crappy deal? We might want to see what BE can get on the open market first before we make that decision. ACC is screwed for the next 15 years with that deal. 15 years is a long time in this conference realignment thing.

THANK YOU! what the acc is going to be 5 years from now is not worth us joining. if we can keep ruty/usf/ucf/uh/bsu on board among others, we are in way better shape in the future. screw ppls local rivals dreams.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

THANK YOU! what the acc is going to be 5 years from now is not worth us joining. if we can keep ruty/usf/ucf/uh/bsu on board among others, we are in way better shape in the future. screw ppls local rivals dreams.

Yep. BE did the right thing by turning down that horrible ESPN offer. BE needs to get the membership right and go to the open market for a big deal. In this conference realignment game, it is all about money and whoever can offer the most money will do the poaching pure and simple. If BE can add BYU, and Fresno to the mix, I think the TV deal could be pretty nice.

 

[Kevin Caliendo]

Im shocked that adding syracuse and Pitt did not add much if anything to the ACC TV deal. Of course, what does that say about the value of Uconn, Rutty, Louisville etc?

the one thing thsi crappy deal does is almost force the ACC to look into re-opening expansion by begging ND to come. what can they do to appease FSU to stay? nothing? ND perhaps

 

[TRest]

Yep. BE did the right thing by turning down that horrible ESPN offer. BE needs to get the membership right and go to the open market for a big deal. In this conference realignment game, it is all about money and whoever can offer the most money will do the poaching pure and simple. If BE can add BYU, and Fresno to the mix, I think the TV deal could be pretty nice.

Or maybe the networks are dialing back on the money now, shown by the ACC deal. We cannot attract better teams than what the current ACC has, and the BE starts negotiating with ESPN in September. Sorry, anyone who thinks this current BE mongrel is better than the ACC without hypothetically FSU and Clemson, is out of their mind.

 

[AJC88]

screw ppls local rivals dreams.

You routinely post about your dream eastern conference.

 

[mcs333]

Expansion for the ACC is dead unless the name is ND. There is no way the ACC will divide the revenues by more teams. They start their meetings today with a lot of turmoil among the AD's. They were kept in the dark on the TV contract and now they feel they got screwed. The TV contract only adds 1M for the next 9 years., contract was backloaded. Now the ACC contract is way below what the other BCS conferences are making.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

My understanding is that the ACC deal is based on inventory, not specific programs. I am sure there are some qualifications for that, but from what I have read, the ACC deal has the ability to swap teams out. ESPN knew this situation before they agreed to that deal.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

My understanding is that the ACC deal is based on inventory, not specific programs. I am sure there are some qualifications for that, but from what I have read, the ACC deal has the ability to swap teams out. ESPN knew this situation before they agreed to that deal.

You figured they would have had to known exactly what was going on between the Big12 and the ACC teams. There's no way ESPN would have made a low ball deal, if they hadn't known FSU/Clemson were out the door or else they would have made the deal larger to control all their games.

I was talking to the WVU Insider and he made a good point (wasn't insider info just conversation), but he said:

Big12 adds Ville, FSU, Clemson, and say Miami
ACC adds UConn, Rutgers

Big12 - 14 teams, on ESPN/Fox
ACC - 14 teams all on ESPN

ESPN essentially has control of all the brand name Big East teams for football, can still bid on a split BE Hoops league (with Nova, GTown, etc.), while NBCSports if they want to get into the game only has a split BE Football league headlined by Cincy, USF, UCF, etc. essentially C-USA. to bid on.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

It depends on the Tier 3 for basketball in the ACC deal. There have been conflicting reports from ACC people.

If the schools control the Tier 3 hoops rights, then UNC and Duke can still make mid-$20's or better per year, which would be enough to keep the ACC losses to no more than 4 teams, and make it an attractive league for UConn. If ALL the Tier 3's are owned by ESPN, I don't see how the ACC is viable, or why UNC and UVa would stay. We would be jumping from one sinking ship to another.