This team can shoot 3s

[tzznandrew]

This was buried in another thread, but I thought it should be it's own thread.

It will be long. You were warned.

We often talk about how our team is a poor shooting team. They are not, at least not from 3 point range. They started out terribly and have gotten much better. They also shoot a ton of 3s...we almost certainly over-rely on that shot because we don't get reliable shooting from bigs, and Hamilton/Purvis don't get to the rack as much as I think they should. But, on to discussing their shooting.

Context: Last year's team shot 38.7% from three, which is pretty impressive. They took 18.5 3s a game, and made 7.1. They were the best 3pt shooting team since 2004, which shot 40.2%--but took only 15.8 3s per game. Really no surprise on 2004, either in percentage (Gordon, Anderson, Brown) or in fewer attempts (Okafor).

This year's team is shooting 35.8% from 3, and (excluding last year), the last UConn team do shoot like that was the 2008 team.

Boatright: 80/191 (41.9%)
Purvis: 45/125 (36%)
Hamilton: 43/122 (35.2%)
Calhoun: 25/73 (34.2%)

If you eliminate Samuel's 0/17, the team shoots 207/562 (36.8%). Not that bad.

BUT, this team did shoot terrible to start the year. Up to 12/31, this team shot 46/163 from 3. That includes--according to @auror , a 1-15 stretch from Boat.

That's 28.2%. That would be the worst shooting season on record. By about 4 percentage points. This is the reason we think of them as a bad 3 point shooting team. For roughly the first third of the season they were. And the team went 6-5 in that stretch.

Since 1/1, though, the team has shot much better. They are 161/416 (38.7%). Exactly the same shooting percentage as last year's team.

Since 1/1, they make an average of 7.67 3s per game and take an average of 19.8.

In their 13 wins since 1/1, from 3 they are 108/252 (42.8%).
In those games they make an average of 8.3 and take 19.3.

In their 8 losses, they are 53/164 (32.2%)
In those games, they average 6.6 makes and 20.5 attempts.

There isn't a huge difference in 3pt attempts between wins and losses, but they shoot 10% better in the wins, and make almost 2 more 3s in their wins, on average.

 

[Wise2]

And that's the problem. We rely too much on the 3 ball to win games. If we are playing a quality team, we almost have to make those 3s or we will loose. What do we do today if we start out 0 for 8 from 3. Do we keep jacking them up. I think we need get in the lane and have Hamilton hit the runner or feed Brimah. Try to get their bigs in foul trouble too, because jacking 3s won't get done. Unless we are hitting them at a plus 35% clip

 

[Waquoit]

If you eliminate Samuel's 0/17, the team shoots 207/562 (36.8%).

For that condition to have relevance, TSam has to be the one to do the eliminating.

 

[Matrim55]

And that's the problem. We rely too much on the 3 ball to win games. If we are playing a quality team, we almost have to make those 3s or we will loose. What do we do today if we start out 0 for 8 from 3. Do we keep jacking them up. I think we need get in the lane and have Hamilton hit the runner or feed Brimah. Try to get their bigs in foul trouble too, because jacking 3s won't get done. Unless we are hitting them at a plus 35% clip

Cincinnati is a GREAT interior defensive team that was playing a zone. If we hadn't shot 30+ 3s, we'd have had zero chance.

 

[tzznandrew]

For that condition to have relevance, TSam has to be the one to do the eliminating.

Right. But, even counting him, since 1/1 they are shooting the exact same percentage as last years team did.

 

[tzznandrew]

Cincinnati is a GREAT interior defensive team that was playing a zone. If we hadn't shot 30+ 3s, we'd have had zero chance.

I do think, in general though, we over-rely on 3s, and when they aren't hitting we don't have any other real options. Last year, we had Daniels who could shoot 3s and play in the high-post. It made the team more versatile. This year's team lacks that versatility.

 

[Matrim55]

I do think, in general though, we over-rely on 3s, and when they aren't hitting we don't have any other real options. Last year, we had Daniels who could shoot 3s and play in the high-post. It made the team more versatile. This year's team lacks that versatility.

Definitely lack that versatility, tho it's been nice to see Phil & Amida hit the occasional jump shot over the last few weeks. Hopefully we'll see more high-low action next year with those two, Facey, Lubin and Enoch.

 

[Stinger92860]

This was buried in another thread, but I thought it should be it's own thread.

It will be long. You were warned.

We often talk about how our team is a poor shooting team. They are not, at least not from 3 point range. They started out terribly and have gotten much better. They also shoot a ton of 3s...we almost certainly over-rely on that shot because we don't get reliable shooting from bigs, and Hamilton/Purvis don't get to the rack as much as I think they should. But, on to discussing their shooting.

Context: Last year's team shot 38.7% from three, which is pretty impressive. They took 18.5 3s a game, and made 7.1. They were the best 3pt shooting team since 2004, which shot 40.2%--but took only 15.8 3s per game. Really no surprise on 2004, either in percentage (Gordon, Anderson, Brown) or in fewer attempts (Okafor).

This year's team is shooting 35.8% from 3, and (excluding last year), the last UConn team do shoot like that was the 2008 team.

Boatright: 80/191 (41.9%)
Purvis: 45/125 (36%)
Hamilton: 43/122 (35.2%)
Calhoun: 25/73 (34.2%)

If you eliminate Samuel's 0/17, the team shoots 207/562 (36.8%). Not that bad.

BUT, this team did shoot terrible to start the year. Up to 12/31, this team shot 46/163 from 3. That includes--according to @auror , a 1-15 stretch from Boat.

That's 28.2%. That would be the worst shooting season on record. By about 4 percentage points. This is the reason we think of them as a bad 3 point shooting team. For roughly the first third of the season they were. And the team went 6-5 in that stretch.

Since 1/1, though, the team has shot much better. They are 161/416 (38.7%). Exactly the same shooting percentage as last year's team.

Since 1/1, they make an average of 7.67 3s per game and take an average of 19.8.

In their 13 wins since 1/1, from 3 they are 108/252 (42.8%).
In those games they make an average of 8.3 and take 19.3.

In their 8 losses, they are 53/164 (32.2%)
In those games, they average 6.6 makes and 20.5 attempts.

There isn't a huge difference in 3pt attempts between wins and losses, but they shoot 10% better in the wins, and make almost 2 more 3s in their wins, on average.

Thanks!

 

[NC_Uconn_Fan]

Shooting 35% from 3 is better than 50% inside. Most NBA teams have now bought into this.

 

[Wise2]

Shooting 35% from 3 is better than 50% inside. Most NBA teams have now bought into this.

Right, but that's an average. We usually shoot over 40 and win or under 30 and loose. The key will be RP. If he starts hitting his shots, we will win. If he duplicates yesterday's game, we will win. But if he is off, it will be an up hill battle. He can't go 1 for 9 and turn the ball over 4 times. It appears he is getting more consistent, but that is what we thought after the SMU game and we know what happened after that. fingers crossed