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I agree with everything Alex said - great win for Temple, against a really good USF team, and this should put Temple in the mix for the NCAA's. They have some truly dreadful losses which are really holding them back, but from a WCBB, American Conference, and Temple perspective, this win cannot be overstated.
 

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Temple is having a good season. A few odd OOC losses, but straightened out. I think that, if they avoid any disasters, they should be NCAA bound. That won't be new territory for them.
 

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USF is having the standard issues of not performing well on the road, while being a much better team at home.
This win by Temple makes a pretty strong case for them for one of the last at large spots in the NCAAs if they can not have any bad losses themselves through the end of the year. Bad news for USF in terms of their seeding, good news for the AAC in terms of maybe getting three teams in to the tournament.
 

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USF is having the standard issues of not performing well on the road, while being a much better team at home.
This win by Temple makes a pretty strong case for them for one of the last at large spots in the NCAAs if they can not have any bad losses themselves through the end of the year. Bad news for USF in terms of their seeding, good news for the AAC in terms of maybe getting three teams in to the tournament.
They are, however, still short-handed.
 
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At 9-2, Temple is in second place in the conference, 1/2 game ahead of South Florida. Wow!

That's the good news. The bad news is they have to play UConn the next game after South Carolina
and then play a return engagement with USF in Tampa.
 

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USF is having the standard issues of not performing well on the road, while being a much better team at home.
This win by Temple makes a pretty strong case for them for one of the last at large spots in the NCAAs if they can not have any bad losses themselves through the end of the year. Bad news for USF in terms of their seeding, good news for the AAC in terms of maybe getting three teams in to the tournament.
But Temple already has some pretty bad losses, and their only good wins are Florida and after yesterday's win, USF.

Good wins (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Florida: 18, 28, 21
USF: 31, 17, 46

Bad losses (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Quinnipiac: 145, 135, 109
St. Joseph's: 110, 116, 88
SMU: 119, 109, 160

The S-factor (LINK) has done a very good job of determining who gets in the tournament and who does not (although they have not been accurate on predicting seeds.) Last Friday, he had USF one of the last at-large teams to make the tournament (10-seed) and had Temple pretty far below the cutoff. He will update his model tomorrow (Monday) to include this weekend's results.

Temple also has losses to 2 teams that are ranked by the S-factor as below the at-large cutoff limit: Rutgers and Penn.

As far as USF's tournament prospects, they have played many tough teams tough, but only have one signature win all season.

Good win (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Oklahoma State: 16, 26, 17

Bad Losses (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Temple: 55, 48, 59
Memphis: 100, 104, 122
 

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But Temple already has some pretty bad losses, and their only good wins are Florida and after yesterday's win, USF.

Good wins (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Florida: 18, 28, 21
USF: 31, 17, 46

Bad losses (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Quinnipiac: 145, 135, 109
St. Joseph's: 110, 116, 88
SMU: 119, 109, 160

The S-factor (LINK) has done a very good job of determining who gets in the tournament and who does not (although they have not been accurate on predicting seeds.) Last Friday, he had USF one of the last at-large teams to make the tournament (10-seed) and had Temple pretty far below the cutoff. He will update his model tomorrow (Monday) to include this weekend's results.

Temple also has losses to 2 teams that are ranked by the S-factor as below the at-large cutoff limit: Rutgers and Penn.

As far as USF's tournament prospects, they have played many tough teams tough, but only have one signature win all season.

Good win (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Oklahoma State: 16, 26, 17

Bad Losses (Massey, Sagarin, RPI)
Temple: 55, 48, 59
Memphis: 100, 104, 122
Yes but before yesterdays game he had Temple at #54 which certainly suggests it is bubble like and with another good win ...

Had not seen this database before and it is an interesting operation - a dumbed down ranking system that makes no attempt to actually rank teams, just predict what the NCAA committee will do with their flawed evaluation databases. I am not overly impressed as most people get down to a group of about 4-6 teams that are the borderline in/out teams - getting only 2 or 3 wrong means that you hit about 50% on those 4-6 or about what a coin flip will do.
As far as getting seed lines within 1 - given that the last 4 seed lines go to automatic bids from the really weak conferences and the first 4 seed lines are also pretty solidly determined an 80% rate for the full field is really more like 40 percent for the 32 at large or strong automatic bid conference winners - getting 13 off by two seed lines in those 32 would be I think pretty average results. And hitting 25 teams 'exactly right' is also not that impressive. Again, the 16 worst teams in the field are pretty obvious and their relative strength is fairly easy to calculate, and hitting one more than 50% on the top 16 shouldn't be that difficult either which would result in 25 correct rankings between those 8 seed lines.
 
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