RPI Ratings for Conferences through 11/28

[nelsonmuntz]

1) Big 12 - .6096
2) Big Ten - .5972
3) Big East - .5923
4) Pac 12 - .5735
5) Atlantic 10 - .5561
6) Missouri Valley - .5452
7) ACC - .5444
8) West Coast - .5403
9) American Athletic - .5359
10) SEC - .5337
11) Horizon -.5287
12) MWC - 5211

There was some debate over how big a gap there would be between the AAC and the Big East. Now we have some data that proves definitively that the gap between the two leagues is huge. And imagine how big the gap would be if UConn would in the Big East instead of the AAC.

UConn currently has an RPI ranking of 5. That RPI is going to get hammered when UConn starts playing conference games against Houston, USF, UCF, SMU and Rutgers. I have been consistent in that virtually any other realistic conference affiliation would be better than the one we are in. We are already seeing the impact of this crappy schedule on ticket sales, and we will certainly feel the pain in the RPI ranking in February.

Herbst made a decision to chase the exit fees instead of do what was best long-term for the university's athletic program. There is little to no evidence to show that the AAC has been a good move for UConn, even when compared to options like splitting the football and basketball conferences. .

 

[tzznandrew]

1) Big 12 - .6096
2) Big Ten - .5972
3) Big East - .5923
4) Pac 12 - .5735
5) Atlantic 10 - .5561
6) Missouri Valley - .5452
7) ACC - .5444
8) West Coast - .5403
9) American Athletic - .5359
10) SEC - .5337
11) Horizon -.5287
12) MWC - 5211

There was some debate over how big a gap there would be between the AAC and the Big East. Now we have some data that proves definitively that the gap between the two leagues is huge. And imagine how big the gap would be if UConn would in the Big East instead of the AAC.

UConn currently has an RPI ranking of 5. That RPI is going to get hammered when UConn starts playing conference games against Houston, USF, UCF, SMU and Rutgers. I have been consistent in that virtually any other realistic conference affiliation would be better than the one we are in. We are already seeing the impact of this crappy schedule on ticket sales, and we will certainly feel the pain in the RPI ranking in February.

Herbst made a decision to chase the exit fees instead of do what was best long-term for the university's athletic program. There is little to no evidence to show that the AAC has been a good move for UConn, even when compared to options like splitting the football and basketball conferences. .

You do realize that the RPI is meaningless at this stage of the season, right? Do you really think the A10 is better than the ACC? And you were harping on how much better the Mountain West was than the American, and according to the RPI, there are 11 conferences better.

 

[whaler11]

RPI is always meaningless. Nevermind just this point in the season.

 

[uconndogs]

Herbst made a decision to chase the exit fees instead of do what was best long-term for the university's athletic program.

Nelson, what's your world like? Is it warm, sunny or does everything just kind of glow in a misty air?

 

[UConnJim]

Debbie Downer again.

Bottom line is that joining the AAC was the only option if you are hoping for a conference upgrade in the future. Football drives the bus and the AAC is the best of the rest football conference. Basketball will be fine as you can schedule good OOC games a lot easier than in football.

 

[uconndogs]

Bottom line is that joining the AAC was the only option....

Not if you live in Oz......

 

[Husky68]

Masse has BE 4th and AAC 6th. Better indicator. Like the potential of Temple, USF, UCF, Houston, SMU to get better; no LV hurts but no Rutgurls helps going forward. One thing about BB, get a good coach and a couple players and team can quickly be top 50. If UConn, Cin, Temple, Memphis can land 3 or so in top 25 not bad for 11 team league.

 

[CL82]

You do realize that the RPI is meaningless at this stage of the season, right? Do you really think the A10 is better than the ACC? And you were harping on how much better the Mountain West was than the American, and according to the RPI, there are 11 conferences better.

Thank you.

RPI right now is based upon who you play out of conference. Typically weaker conference teams play tougher OOC games giving them higher early season RPI. Look again at the end of the season.

 

[gars44]

We have an excellent coach, and even a Butler type school can get there with an excellent coach. I'm not worried about basketball. In fact, it's just about the least of our worries.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

7 games into year 1, well, I'm sold.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

RPI is always meaningless. Nevermind just this point in the season.

Oh really? Does the NCAA now use another measure to pick tournament teams?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

7 games into year 1, well, I'm sold.

Non-conference is about halfway over.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Debbie Downer again.

Bottom line is that joining the AAC was the only option if you are hoping for a conference upgrade in the future. Football drives the bus and the AAC is the best of the rest football conference. Basketball will be fine as you can schedule good OOC games a lot easier than in football.

The AAC is one of the worst options if we are trying to upgrade our conference.

The Debbie Downer's are the ones that embrace a stupid solution and try to convince themselves that it is the right one because they feel they are stuck with it.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You do realize that the RPI is meaningless at this stage of the season, right? Do you really think the A10 is better than the ACC? And you were harping on how much better the Mountain West was than the American, and according to the RPI, there are 11 conferences better.

The conference RPI is very relevant at this point. The AAC has already played 91 games. How many games do you think are necessary to compare conferences?

 

[BlueHen]

nelson, why do you bother following UConn? You clearly get no enjoyment out of it. I knew before I even opened this thread that the sky would be falling.

 

[tzznandrew]

The conference RPI is very relevant at this point. The AAC has already played 91 games. How many games do you think are necessary to compare conferences?

91 games is not nearly enough in terms of conferences. So you think that the Atlantic 10 is better than the ACC? And the WCC is better than the SEC? The Horizon is better than the Mountain West?

While, like @whaler11 , I think the RPI doesn't say much worth reporting ever, let's revisit this at the around March...you know, when these factors actually matter.

And, to answer your question: I'm not sure the exact amount of games necessary to compare conferences, but, it's usually a good indicator that it's not yet time when Youngstown State is in the Top 10, and when Belmont, Drake, Drexel, UTEP, Green Bay, and Bryant are in the Top 25.

 

[tzznandrew]

Sagarin's Rankings have the American in 7th, which about what most of us thought for year one...and it's closer to 5 than it is to 8, and about as close to 3 as to 9.

Still too early, but I think that's a much more statistically accurate system.

1 BIG TEN = 83.87 83.70 ( 1) 12 83.78 ( 1)
2 BIG 12 = 82.56 82.55 ( 2) 10 82.64 ( 2)
3 BIG EAST = 81.64 81.63 ( 3) 10 81.61 ( 3)
4 ATLANTIC COAST = 81.44 81.54 ( 4) 15 81.48 ( 4)
5 SOUTHEASTERN = 80.14 79.92 ( 6) 14 80.06 ( 5)
6 PAC-12 = 80.12 79.98 ( 5) 12 80.03 ( 6)
7 AMERICAN ATHLETIC = 79.92 79.68 ( 7) 10 79.87 ( 7)
8 ATLANTIC 10 = 79.09 78.82 ( 8) 13 78.96 ( 8)
9 MOUNTAIN WEST = 77.51 77.06 ( 9) 11 77.30 ( 9)
10 MISSOURI VALLEY = 76.31 76.75 ( 11) 10 76.39 ( 11)
11 WEST COAST = 76.24 76.93 ( 10) 10 76.58 ( 10)
12 HORIZON = 75.35 74.94 ( 12) 9 75.05 ( 12)

 

[UofMemphis]

The RPI is meaningless until around January when conference play starts up...

 

[whaler11]

Oh really? Does the NCAA now use another measure to pick tournament teams?

LOL. Seriously you aren't this stupid.

First of all yes, any cursory reading of how the process works would inform you to the fact that the committee members use many different metrics in the selection process.

Secondly even if RPI was the sole measure of selecting tournament teams which everyone in the world other than you knows isn't true - it still would just be a junk metric that doesn't measure the actual quality of the teams.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Non-conference is about halfway over.

RPI is an accumulated results-based system, therefore evaluating it this early into the season is meaningless. Evaluate it again on Jan 1 to get a more accurate picture of how the conferences stand after the main OOC season. Not to mention that conference RPI is barely used in the selection process as compared to individual RPI.

 

[whaler11]

The idea that RPI is a big deal? Since there has been a 68 team tournament there isn't a single team that has been worth a damn that has been left out of the tournament.

At this point by the time March rolls around the bubble contains a half dozen mediocre teams who generally have bad resumes.

There are a dozen writers who pick 66-67 of the teams going into selection sunday and the final few teams may as well be randomly selected like lottery numbers based on who they selected the past few years.

 

[metsfan2323]

Oh really? Does the NCAA now use another measure to pick tournament teams?

If we don't make the tournament with this team we have bigger issues than conference. I'm impressed that the AAC is ahead of the SEC, good thing we didn't join that conference.

According RPI we are very close to the ACC. I say Bravo American! Thanks for the good news you idiot.

 

[metsfan2323]

BTW if we left with the C7 wouldn't we have to cough up 11 Million in exit fee money? So instead of collecting exit fee money we would be paying it out. Did you factor that into your idiot analysis?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The RPI is meaningless until around January when conference play starts up...

Actually, the conference RPI ratings are basically locked in by 12/30 or so, when conference schedules start. After that date, conference RPI's become a "zero sum game", with every win being another team's loss.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

BTW if we left with the C7 wouldn't we have to cough up 11 Million in exit fee money? So instead of collecting exit fee money we would be paying it out. Did you factor that into your idiot analysis?

As I pointed out in the original post, I believe that the exit fees are the whole reason UConn is still in this conference.

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