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[Fishy]

A repository for platinum-level tweets.

Rules:

1) No commentary.

2) Seriously. None.

3) I'm looking at you, visiting hayseeds.

4) Honestly, I'll kill whoever this up.

 

[uconndogs]

Is it OK to post that I find the OP a little intimidating?

 

[calluke]

A little intimidating?

 

[Fishy]

Okay. It's a slow start. A very slow start.

Terror is a tricky motivational device, but we'll see how it goes tomorrow when I pray some premium Tweeter shows up for work.

You know, I was on vacation last week and we were killing time in the Orlando airport and I saw something that immediately reminded me of this place....

I took this picture thinking of you people....NASA can go to the moon, they can go to Mars, but they've never been the Boneyard where failure isn't just an option, it's an ideal.

 

[shizzle787]

Beverly Davenport ‏@UCPrezDav 3h3 hours ago
Thanks to all our UC fans for standing tall with us. #PawsUp ?

 

[whaler11]

 

[Fishy]

Guy doesn't even know the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath.

Dope.

 

[whaler11]

This is from a Chip Brown tweeted link. I didn't bother trying to get the tweet or link up because I don't think it will work.

My fear of Memphis is not getting any better...

 

[CardiffGiant]

Link for Chip Brown:SOURCES: BIG 12 MOVING TOWARD EXPANSION

 

[gwhuskyfan]

From SportsBusinessJournal

Big 12 TV partners push back on expansion: Big 12 TV partners push back on expansion

 

[HartbeatHusky]

In expansion talks, just what does OU really want?

However, one industry insider, who worked directly with programming before recently leaving for another job in the industry, indicated getting the Big 12 schools to sign a grant of rights without offering anything in return will be a tough sell for the networks, even as they have to shell out up to $800 million to the league. More likely, to get a grant of rights extension, ESPN and Fox would have to put forward an immediate renegotiation of the Big 12's tier 1 and 2 deals, and pay the Big 12 up to the levels of the SEC and Big Ten. The Big Ten is now getting an estimated $250 million per year from Fox for only half of its rights.

If the networks put that on the table, the Big 12's viability for the next two decades would be virtually assured.

 

[Fishy]

All right - let's do try to keep it to tweets and links, so people can just hit the thread and get right to the news.

Comments can go anywhere else.

 

[HartbeatHusky]

ESPN and Fox Angry With Big 12 Expansion

This morning ESPN and Fox staged an extraordinary intervention in Big 12 expansion, going public with their displeasure over the potential addition of teams in the conference. It was a calculated Monday morning public attack on the Big 12's plans to expand, the likes of which we have never before seen.

 

[Charley Horse]

 

[HartbeatHusky]

How TV pushback could mold Big 12 expansion

Brigham Young, of course, isn't a Power 5 school, and yet, that's largely because the school chose to remain independent for decades. It has a fan base to rival many Power 5 schools. Ditto for the football tradition, the brand recognition and the across-the-board, all-sport prowess.

Those factors might assuage the TV types that it's a non-Power 5 in name only.

If it doesn't do the trick, the Big 12's options are extremely limited to find a willing and able Power 5 school. The grant-of-rights agreements that schools sign with their conferences are so punitive financially that they are nearly impossible to break. Even the Big 12 had a situation where a school like Louisville wanted to leave the ACC or Nebraska wanted to come back from the Big Ten, they would be hard-pressed to make it happen.

The finances wouldn't add up for anyone.

The Big 12's next best option would be a team from a recently demoted power conference. Remember when we used to talk about "BCS teams" and "non-BCS teams"? Seems long ago, but that was only a couple years. The BCS conferences, you'll recall, included the current Power 5 leagues and what is now the American Athletic Conference.

Among its members: Houston, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Central Florida and South Florida.

They were in a power league until the College Football Playoff kicked into gear a couple years ago, so maybe this gives those five schools a leg up in the Big 12 sweepstakes.

(Though I have to wonder, would anyone at ESPN actually pitch a not-a-Power-5-school fit if next-door neighbor and cuddle buddy UConn was the one added to the Big 12?)

 

[junglehusky]

Thus it’s not overly difficult to foresee Texas and Oklahoma making a break for it for real next time, triggering the power-conference endgame. If the SEC, Big Ten, ACC and Pac-12 all kept their current members and descended upon the Big 12 like carrion, here’s one guess what it could all look like come 2024:

SEC new members: Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. The Sooners are the big prize and the tagalong Cowboys are the lottery winners by virtue of state politics and Boone Pickens.

Big Ten new members: Kansas and Connecticut. It would be a basketball-centric expansion for a conference that already has sufficient football flagships. It also would further the league’s foothold in the New York area, while simultaneously preventing UConn from being the single biggest loser of all realignment.

Pac-12 new members: Texas, BYU and two from a group of Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU and Houston. Or BYU could be the odd team out in favor of an all-Texas foursome.

ACC: Notre Dame and West Virginia. Or the Fighting Irish could continue their current relationship as a football scheduling partner and otherwise full ACC membership. The ACC could make do with 15 in football and 16 in basketball, or it could add Cincinnati to make it 16 and 17.

 

[junglehusky]

 

[noeynox]

 

[junglehusky]

Trotter: Boren, OU have leverage for moves

The difference with the Big 12 is that ESPN and Fox, contractually, have nothing to leverage the conference for the grant of rights extension -- the $25 million-per-school increases are already in the contract.

On this one, ESPN and Fox can only ask and hope.

The good news for them is that several of the Big 12's members might be incentivized to sign such an extension. In the event the Big 12 ever dissolved, it's not entirely clear that everyone in the league would have a Power 5 landing spot.

...

Maybe Texas Tech and Oklahoma State and Kansas State would have a Power 5 home elsewhere. Maybe not. Big 12 survival is a safer route.

Because of its lucrative deal with ESPN on the Longhorn Network, which doesn't expire for another 15 years, Texas has 225 million reasons to stand pat in the Big 12.

Oklahoma's only motivation, however, would only be, well, an altruistic stance on greater Big 12 stability.

However, one industry insider, who worked directly with programming before recently leaving for another job in the industry, indicated getting the Big 12 schools to sign a grant of rights without offering anything in return will be a tough sell for the networks, even as they have to shell out up to $800 million to the league. More likely, to get a grant of rights extension, ESPN and Fox would have to put forward an immediate renegotiation of the Big 12's tier 1 and 2 deals, and pay the Big 12 up to the levels of the SEC and Big Ten. The Big Ten is now getting an estimated $250 million per year from Fox for only half of its rights.

If the networks put that on the table, the Big 12's viability for the next two decades would be virtually assured. But only if the Red River flagships signed off. If either balked against a proposal the rest of the conference supported, it could, once again, send a message to the other Big 12 members -- that the Sooners aren't completely committed to the conference.

(emphasis added)

 

[Fishy]

Temple willing to talk to the Big 12

Kraft said that the AAC athletic directors have discussed the situation with one another.

"There would absolutely be no hard feelings if any schools left," Kraft said. "Whatever happens, if one, two, three [AAC teams leave], we still have a lot of really strong school and we will continue to build. It's not like it will decimate us."

 

[06029]

UNC has endless possibilities with new ACC Network
http://www.tarheelblog.com/unc-tar-...nc-tar-heels-acc-network-recruiting-expansion
Go to the end where he talks ACC expansion and Uconn.

 

[Slasher]

Read these in reverse order....

1. Tom Groeschen ‏@TomGroeschen 3m3 minutes ago
   Aresco: We’re an elite conference playing the highest level of competition.
   
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2. 
   Tom Groeschen ‏@TomGroeschen 9m9 minutes ago
   Aresco on Big 12 possibly taking some AAC members: 'That speaks to our strength.'
   
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3. 
   Tom Groeschen ‏@TomGroeschen 10m10 minutes ago
   'Regardless of what may happen we’re going to return most of our membership,' says Aresco, who says AAC is 'A Power 6 conference'
   
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4. 
   Tom Groeschen ‏@TomGroeschen 11m11 minutes ago
   Aresco: 'I cannot stand here this morning and ignore the recent Big 12 News concerning realignment.'
   
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5. 
   Tom Groeschen ‏@TomGroeschen 14m14 minutes ago
   #AACC2016 Commissioner Mike Aresco takes the podium. An early reference to the 'so-called P5'
   
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[noeynox]

FOX may not be as against expansion as ESPN:

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

From Benedict (read in reverse order):

1. Matt Schonvisky ‏@MattSchonvisky 4m4 minutes ago
   "...because it will impact some people when they do make decision to add schools, but we are focused on the task at hand" Benedict on Big 12
   
   
2. 
   Matt Schonvisky ‏@MattSchonvisky 9m9 minutes ago
   "I'm sure there are a lot of people that are anxious about getting to point where we understand where things are going..." Benedict Big 12
   
   
3. 
   Matt Schonvisky ‏@MattSchonvisky 11m11 minutes ago
   "I don't think that I can do anything necessarily that can change what our history has been over last ten years or so." Benedict on Big 12
   
   
4. 
   Matt Schonvisky ‏@MattSchonvisky 13m13 minutes ago
   "What is the university profile, what is the academic profile & those are things that have taken place for a long period of time." Benedict
   
   
5. 
   Matt Schonvisky ‏@MattSchonvisky 16m16 minutes ago
   Benedict on Big 12: "reality is much of what they're evaluating in any schools they are looking at are historical in nature..."
   

Not much to the commentary, sounds like Benedict's trying to say absolutely nothing while saying something.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

KABOOM.

Blauds, while sometimes a tool, does not ever post information like this when it's wrong.

Big 12 contacts Connecticut to discuss possible interest in expansion