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Discussion in 'UConn Men's Basketball' started by suzyq, Jul 12, 2012.



  1. suzyq Popular Poster

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  2. freescooter Popular Poster

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    Everyone knew and nobody did anything! Disgraceful.
  3. Edward Sargent Popular Poster

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    I love the "humane thing to do" Dogs are given better treatment. Ken Frazier the CEO of Merck (I worked for them for 25 years) was tabbed by the Board of Trustees to get that investigation done. It was one of those looks around the table resulting in the conclusion "Ken you got Merck out of the Vioxx litigation why don't you handle this"? Ken is a lawyer/litigator who tried death row cases pro bono. He also ran Public Affairs for many years. I am sure it wasn't easy, but it looks like he did a damn good job picking someone to get it done. The interesting parts of the report are really gpoing to be how deep the "football is God culture" extends throughout Penn State, the alumni, the State College community and the State of Pennsylvania. It looks to be VERY deep, deep enough for a predatory pedofile to operate unscathed for that long. I wonder where else similar cultures can be found - hmmm?
  4. Dogbreath2U Popular Poster

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    Probably all over the place.
  5. arnie3 Popular Poster

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  6. aceboon Popular Poster

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    time for that statue to come down
  7. UConn990411 Popular Poster

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    NCAA: "As long as their APR scores are high enough, we don't give a if they're enabling child molesters."
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  8. arnie3 Popular Poster

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    Suzy is right. This is a brutal report. I'm not going to take a cynical attitude because lives were ruined by these uncaring people. This school should, and I hope does receive the ultimate penalty. I don't care how alumnae like Dana O'Neil try to spin this, the only answer is to shut down this football program for 5 years, and start over again. The victims of this tragedy deserve no less.
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    All of this negative news (including ours) is depressing. Its time for some institution somewhere to produce some good news. Sadly that won't get reported.
  10. ericsandiego Cronus

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    The report said that Paterno, along with officials Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, and former president Graham Spanier, "repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse from the authorities," and it blamed those four men for failing to stop Sandusky and protect other chidlren from his harm.

    The four officials showed a "striking lack of empathy" for the victims of Sandusky's abuse and empowered the former assitant coach to continue abusing, the report said.

    Found this in a CBS news write up. Disgraceful and disgusting. some are arguing that child abuse and child molestation are not covered by NCAA rules. I can see why the NCAA wouldn't have a formal policy on it, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't act given the findings. I mean, the former FBI director came up with the report after his investigation. Guilty on all counts, and the NCAA should step up. Let PSU try to sue the NCAA for taking football away for 5 years.
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    The damage of the story itself has done more than enough damage. Their coach is dead, and their program and school reputations have been shattered. When anyone thinks of Penn State now, they'll first think of Ben and Jerry the ice cream dudes, and how a bunch of guys who won a bunch of football games deceived, controlled and played an entire university, from the bottom with the janitors up to the top with the board of trustees, into allowing a pedophile to (and this makes it so much worse) groom young boys in his camps to become his eventual victims, whose lives have been irrevocably damaged, for at least 14 years.

    Do you really need to take the football team away completely and punish all the people who had absolutely zero involvement in the atrocities?
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  12. superjohn Popular Poster

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    A talking head on ESPN just said one thing the NCAA can't do is change the rules as they go along, ummm that's exactly what they did with UConn. Joe Paterno is a POS and anyone in the media who tries to protect his legacy is a POS.
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  13. progrocks Popular Poster

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    Giving the death penalty to a Big Ten program is against NCAA rules. No way anything major happens on that side.
  14. bmayuc Haters Gonna Hate

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    Their football team is riding high right now, scooping recruits like nothing happened.

    This program is the reason that many kids were raped. Fu$k that. Kill the program.

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  15. Gurleyman Popular Poster

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    It's in many ways an unfair comparison - but the current UConn MBB players are being punished because their predecessors didn't keep up with their studies. If the world felt ok about that, then surely they can deal with Penn State players who get to transfer and play right away. The death penalty would also help many of those players, who are unwilling to leave a tarnished program for blind loyalty. Save them from themselves.

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    APR hit for looking the other way when an assistant coach tries to put his wiener into lil kids?

    Nada.
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    It's very interesting how much Penn State is in the news and people on this
    message board and elsewhere are talking about severe pelvic use for the
    football program including even the death penalty, but the Syracuse
    situation with Bernie Fine is all but forgotten.

    There were certainly more victims in the Sandusky case, and the assaults
    occurred more recently. But, there are some parts of the Bernie Fine case
    which were worse than the Sandusky case. When the alleged abuse occurred,
    Coach Fine was actually a paid employee of Syracuse University and the
    victims were actually ball boys who are part of the Syracuse basketball
    program... essentially unpaid volunteers, who, as minors, certainly should
    have received protection from the basketball program. Instead, when the
    initial complaint was raised to the University 7 years ago, instead of
    taking positive, affirmative action to correct the problem at that time,
    they hired their own law firm to perform a perfunctory/incomplete
    investigation to ensure that the allegations wouldn't reach the light of
    day. When he allegations surfaced again 7 years later, the Head of the
    Syracuse basketball program publicly assaults the character of the victims.

    It seems to me like the "circle the wagons" culture for Syracuse basketball
    is even stronger than that of Penn State football.

    I have never been a Syracuse basketball hater, and I used to have a great
    deal of respect for Coach Boeheim. However, this whole situation thoroughly
    disgusts me and it is deplorable that he gets away entirely unscathed.
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  18. babysheep Popular Poster

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    No, Jerry Sandusky is the reason kids were raped, not the football team. The players are especially not responsible. Clear out the officers and coaches if you like, but the players don't deserve to have their team taken away.
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  19. arnie3 Popular Poster

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    Yes. That school will learn nothing from this if there are not strict sanctions. Even ESPN has come out in favor of strict sanctions.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football...ll-penn-state-nittany-lions-earned-wrath-ncaa
  20. Edward Sargent Popular Poster

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    To put it in a somewhat less cynical way - the NCAA could be consiiered part of the cultural problem that allowed this to happen. It will be interesting to see what the NCAA does. Penn St makes a lot of money for the NCAA and they are a very arbitrary organization.
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