OT: Hernandez Trial

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  1. dogpause

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    Wow, can't believe his own lawyer said he was present for the murder of Lloyd. Doesn't MA law let you be found guilty even if you didn't pull the trigger? Does this line of defense make any sense?
     
  2. donyell34

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    Seems like he's guilty with a strong circumstantial case. Stranger things have happened though. What a freaking shame and judgment day is here.
     
  3. huskypantz

    huskypantz UConn - We Recycle

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    Trying to throw doubt into the minds of the jury. He admits he was there.so who really pulled the trigger??? And of course it's too late for him to take the stand.
     
  4. Deepster

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    1. There's no murder weapon.
    2. There's no eyewitness testimony.
    3. There's no real motive.
    You need to prove he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. No case here from what I can see, I think he walks easily.
     
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  5. BigErnMcCracken

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    I haven't really followed the case too closely but irrespective of whether they get him for murder I don't think he's going to walk on the various gun charges so I can't imagine he skates completely.
     
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  6. UConn990411

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    I have a sneaky feeling his high-priced lawyers understand the law.
     
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  7. methodology

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    Prosecution did a poor job in this case. They were throwing Scalito at the wall and hoping things stuck. No motive, no murder weapon, all circumstantial evidence, defense poked holes through most of their "evidence" that linked Hernandez. The video from the house doesn't clearly show a gun or anything its all speculation and the jury cant convict on speculation it has to be without a doubt.

    Tough to convict him on first degree murder but the gun charges and the other double homicide case will be completely different IMO.
     
  8. tower1

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    Yea he is going to walk alright, right into Prison!
     
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  9. TheChamps990411

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    Funny because ive been thinking the same thing. Ive been telling people that i have this funny feeling hes going to get off. Hope im wrong. He should spend the rest of his life in prison. Not for murder but just for being a complete moron.
     
  10. dogpause

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    I was surprised at the lack of oratory skills by both the prosecutor and the defense lawyer. Neither of them had much sales ability, IMO.
     
  11. Excalibur

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    People have been convicted with less, and not just guys without the means to mount a good defense. Either way, he goes back to prison to await his next trial.
     
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  12. Joobie

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    There was no weapon found, but the tire track impressions & a joint with his DNA on it were found at the scene. Not sure what the ramifications might be, but it was pretty clear that he was there. He really had no other defense except to say that he didn't pull the trigger; which begs the question, why not call 911 if you knew your "friend" had been shot?
     
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  13. CallMeBruce

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    Yeah, I don't see how he isn't at least an accessory, at which point it stops mattering whether or not he pulled the trigger.
     
  14. BigErnMcCracken

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    Except he wasn't charged with it, so no dice.
     
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  15. Deepster

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    Well, the ramifications are not being convicted of murder.
     
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  16. jibsey

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    Don't forget that whatever happens he's got double murder charges waiting for him in the bullpen. You can't make up his kind of stupid.
     
  17. superjohn

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    If they don't get him on this murder they sure as hell ain't getting him on the other two.
     
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  18. JimOllie

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    I'm 100% sure he did it but there evidence isn't there. However, after this trial he'll be tried for the Boston double murder which has multiple eye witnesses who were in the car that Hernandez shot at. So while I think he'll walk this time, the next trial looks like it could have better evidence,
     
  19. HuskyBballFan

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    How do you figure? They have a stronger case in the double murder. They actually have the gun in that case.
     
  20. jibsey

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    He probably thinks that if he beats this he will play in the NFL again.
     
  21. dogpause

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    Either way, he'll be broke after two murder trials.
     
  22. Go_Huskies

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    I hope this is sarcasm. This is an open and shut case. He is guilty and will rightly be found guilty in the rural (conservative by new england standards) county.
     
  23. superjohn

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    Never heard they have the gun in that case? If that's true, he should be done.
     
  24. Hoophound

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    No way. He's got a 50/50 shot or better of being found innocent. There is zero proof as to who shot the guy. I think he did, but it is tough/impossible to prove.
     
  25. Go_Huskies

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    Here is the evidence.
    1. He has cell phone records that track exactly with the dead victims' cell phone. The cell phone records prove that he went to pick up the victim in boston and then took him to the place where his body was found. Coincidence?
    2. Text messages between Hernandez and the victim indicating they made plans to hang out the night the victim was killed.
    3. Surveillance video showing Hernandez entering the industrial park were the victim's body was found with the victim shortly before a witness heard shots being fired. After the shots were there is video of his car leaving the park without the victim. Hmm? That seems suspicious.
    4. Shortly after that there is surveillance video showing Hernandez coming in his house a few minutes after the victim was killed holding what appears to be a gun.
    5. Multiple witnessing indicating that Hernandez owned the type of gun that killed the victim. A gun that is now missing.
    6.His finance testifying that Hernandez asked her to throw away a box.
    7. Multiple witnessing testifying that Hernandez was mad at the victim for speaking to his "enemies" at a club and not saying "Hi" to him.
    8. Hernandez destroyed his phone in a futile attempt to get rid of evidence. This was also captured on tape.
    9. Text messages between Hernandez and his partner that sound like he asking him to get rid of evidence "“U grab everything out of car … clip and cds and everything.”" Clips may refer to the type you put in a gun


    No Evidence?
     
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  26. JimOllie

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    Unfortunately, I think you're right.
     
  27. WingU-Conn

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    No. No evidence that he pulled the trigger. Ever heard of reasonable doubt?

    There's plenty of evidence that he was there (with at least two others), and that a man was murdered.

    Out of those 9 pieces of evidence, which one specifically proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hernandez pulled the trigger?

    Any one of them could have done it. He probably did. But "probably" = reasonable doubt. He'll get off.
     
  28. Da_Aisijimo_Gou

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    On the other hand, Hernandez's defense attorneys ...
     
  29. BigErnMcCracken

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    Yes, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence. That doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be convicted.
     
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  30. Da_Aisijimo_Gou

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    On the other hand, Hernandez's defense attorneys' retirements ...