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Now that the Big 12 stays intact til 2025, does 8-team playoff happen?

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Really? This poll now?
You even have a soul?
 

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Really? This poll now?
You even have a soul?
Actually, this opens the door for us in a miracle season. So, yes, I do have a soul.
 
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Conveniently, the contract for the four-team playoff runs through 2025. Also, Notre Dame's TV deal runs through 2025.

I still think we will end up with 4 superconferences consisting of 16 teams each. In that case, it's probably better to go with four divisions of four teams each per conference as opposed to two eight-team divisions because in the latter scenario, you only play some teams in your conference once every four years. In the former scenario, you would play each team in your league every other year.

Then instead of an eight-team playoff, you would probably have conference tournament semis (the 4 division winners) followed by a conference championship game, with the four conference winners facing off for the national championship.

^^By the way, if the SEC, ACC, and Big Ten decided to have conference semis, the Big 12 would immediately be dead. They might be able to match the revenue from one championship game but they wouldn't be able to match the revenue from the two new conference tourney semi-final games (which would be defacto playoff games for entry to the four-team national championship playoff).
 
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Conveniently, the contract for the four-team playoff runs through 2025. Also, Notre Dame's TV deal runs through 2025.

I still think we will end up with 4 superconferences consisting of 16 teams each. In that case, it's probably better to go with four divisions of four teams each per conference as opposed to two eight-team divisions because in the latter scenario, you only play some teams in your conference once every four years. In the former scenario, you would play each team in your league every other year.

Then instead of an eight-team playoff, you would probably have conference tournament semis (the 4 division winners) followed by a conference championship game, with the four conference winners facing off for the national championship.

^^By the way, if the SEC, ACC, and Big Ten decided to have conference semis, the Big 12 would immediately be dead. They might be able to match the revenue from one championship game but they wouldn't be able to match the revenue from the two new conference tourney semi-final games (which would be defacto playoff games for entry to the four-team national championship playoff).
I don't think the NCAA would allow the extra games. The thing that messes everything up is football. If you take football out of the equation, the arms race effectively ends, and we can stop this realignment nonsense and maybe get back to some semblance of sensible athletic conferences.
 
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If the college football playoff expanded to 8 it would limit the effective monopoly the P5 programs have.....this is why IMO it won't happen. Right now the SEC and BIG have an absolute lock into the playoffs. The PAC/ACC/Big12 get the final 2 spots. The P5 have effectively closed the gates to all G5 programs.

Big football has seen what the NCAA basketball tournament has done and it wants no part of it. The big money in college basketball is in the NCAA tournament and the NCAA takes $800 million of the $1 billion in yearly TV revenue. When conferences say "only football matters" it is not because there is so much more money in football but instead the P5 conferences have been able to mostly exclude the NCAA for football and they keep the money for themselves.

Big football does not want to see a Cinderella Houston or BSU make a run to a football championship. If players had an opportunity to play for a championship from the G5 level then the P5 programs would lose their recruiting advantages. An 8 team playoff opens the door much wider for a G5 team....why do you think some Big12 schools fought Houston being added? It is all about maintaining a recruiting advantage. The UConn men's and women's teams have both won basketball championships from the G5...that can never happen for UConn football no matter how good the team is which insures the G5 programs will struggle to recruit the football players necessary to build a premiere program.

Big football is all about access and control....expanding the playoff does not benefit the huge P5 programs that are currently winning championships and making millions. Big football will argue it is about "maintaining the relevance of the regular season" or" limiting the demands on the student athlete" but it is all about controlling the access and money.
 

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Why does anyone think the possible addition of four schools to the college football playoff has anything to do with the Big XII's decision?
 
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I don't think the NCAA would allow the extra games. The thing that messes everything up is football. If you take football out of the equation, the arms race effectively ends, and we can stop this realignment nonsense and maybe get back to some semblance of sensible athletic conferences.

So they would allow the extra games for the eight-game playoff but not for a conference tourney semifinal? That seems strange.
 
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The NCAA actually has no control of this anymore. Through the autonomy vote this is now a decision that is made by the P5.

If/when the P5 decide they can monetize any additional conference playoff games or an expansion of the CFP to 8 teams is when the changes will occur
 
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