More FSU and Clemson to SEC Talk

They have half a million alumni.

This was discussed thoroughly on here before. There is a big thread on this. You can go look it up and read about it. Let's not get into this again. There is no way you can get out of a grant of rights.

No chance.

Everyone who has ever read the Doofus of WV knows that major conference announcements, that is, 'done deals,' are only announced on Tuesdays at 4PM.

Posted the Doofus from......Syracuse???.........BC???............

Yeah because the announcement that Cuse and Pitt were joining the ACC was announced on a Tuesday. Oh wait it was a Saturday.

Yep, and I commented in that thread plenty. If Texas goes to the SEC and plays in SEC conference games, media rights to SEC conference games are owned by the SEC, not Texas. Show me evidence that a school can't get out of a grant of rights.

Texas would then be in breach of the contract, and would have to pay damages to the Big 12. The point of the GoR is that the damages would be equal in size to the value of the TV rights, which is vastly more than the exit fees paid by WVU/Pitt/Cuse to the Big East. >$20 mn/yr for the term of the contract, or $240 mn+. So Texas would effectively forfeit all TV revenue for 10-12 years.

The intent of the GoR and the end result of a school breaching the contract are two different things. And Texas would not forfeit all TV revenue, I don't know where you're getting that from. B12 schools own their 3rd party rights, which in Texas's case is a significant sum of money.

I don't think that is the right analysis. I think what conferences are trying to accomplish with the GoR (and I'm not telling you I think it would work) is to transfer title to the right to televise home games the day the contract is signed. With the theory being that if you leave your conference there is no breach, because the contract has already been fully performed and you have transferred title and the conference owns it.

Now, the very fact that you want to talk about damages, as opposed to title, is why not all lawyers are at all sure that the whole GoR concept will work. If you talk damages, then Hadley v Baxandale and all that, you have to take the value of the rights that TX tried to sign over, subtract what TX would have been paid and subtract any mitigation of damages that the XII could achieve by adding BYU or Louisville. But once you are treating it as an unperformed contract, I'm not sure there is irreperable harm and that TX wouldn't be showing its games in the SEC or Pac whatever. To achieve what the conferences want, you have to treat title to those rights as being owned by the conference so that there is no contract for TX to breach.

Does that make sense? Again, I'm trying to explain someone else's scheme that I'm not at all sure a court would enforce.

The GOR for the Big 12 at the present time is only 6 yrs, and texas would walk away from that in a minute. They are getting 15 mil a year for 3rd tier from ESPN. If they ever sign a GOR for 13 yrs beware of the fine print, texas is and always will be about Texas.

iirc the b12 agreement states that anyone who leaves during the period forfeits ALL tv revenue of any kind for the remainder of that 6 year period.

“@CFravel247: ACC commissioner John Swofford will be in Clemson this weekend starting tomorrow to discuss a number of topics with the Clemson BOT”

If anyone is bored... Go to Fravel's timeline for futher speculation on "agenda" - future of ACC, expansion, TV contract, yada, yada...

The meeting is being downplayed which makes me suspicious (Conspiracy Kitty wannabe).

ACC Media day starts Sunday in North Carolina.

http://www.hornsports.com/forums/bi...ent-62/all-people-asking-when-when-when-1239/

http://tuxedoyoda.blogspot.com/2012/07/college-football-reacts-to-news-of.html

Strong work on the reactions...!

You forgot to include UConn fans.

Larry Williams‏@LarryWilliamsTI
BOT chair D. Wilkins told me: "No doubt, future expansion of the ACC will be talked about" on Swofford visit.

@LarryWilliamsTI
Writer for Rivals web site Tigerillustrated.com. Author of Classic Clashes of the Carolina-Clemson Football Rivalry and The Danny Ford Years at Clemson

This is the guy who runs the Baylor 24/7 site and he is well respected. This will have big implications for conference realignment: https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247/status/226288003226677248

Gotta wait and see. Way too many false rumors in the past to take anyone seriously; even you Tuxedo Dodo.

maybe? i'll be here.

honest question, as a bc fan what is your dream 16 league? everyone here knows mine is a 16 team big public east coast league. but as a bc fan what are your thoughts? are you more pro acc with like nd/psu type deal or what?