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Always worth a look, if for nothing else, Geno's laugh



More than"the shot" the fun was watching Bam Bam and Big Rig (she told the ref: I don't foul--I roof them). That was the Shea that was great to watch--she was one tough cookie. The expression on Swin when she realized she scored for the other team is priceless--good thing Geno was ahead and had a good sense of humor. This group hooked me on UC WBB.

Thanks that was big fun!!! The hell of it--Swin has to suffer this as someone trots out another cut of that shot--
 
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I also see UCONN being capable of averaging 80+ points a game. I think they will be a very dangerous team to play even with the loss of THE BIG 3 because the points will be more evenly distributed. Instead of 50 to 60 points coming from the 3 stars, many players will be in the 10 to 16 point range, with 1 or 2 getting 20+ once in a while. The defense again will be the best in the nation holding opponents under 50 points a game, so even if the offense is off a bit they'll be winning by 10 to 20 instead of 30!
 
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Just an idle thought - does Swin's basket count in her career total points scored?
 

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I believe there is NO WAY UCONN will hold most opponents to less than 60 points a game, especially the better teams. I think their biggest problem will be stopping the dribble drive to the basket. If Butler can regain her rebounding form that could help some but imo the defense will not be as good as some of you say and until the latter part of the season neither will the offense. The teams with taller players will give them problems. ND, Maryland, Baylor, SC and Texas will be hard to beat. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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I believe there is NO WAY UCONN will hold most opponents to less than 60 points a game, especially the better teams. I think their biggest problem will be stopping the dribble drive to the basket. If Butler can regain her rebounding form that could help some but imo the defense will not be as good as some of you say and until the latter part of the season neither will the offense. The teams with taller players will give them problems. ND, Maryland, Baylor, SC and Texas will be hard to beat. I hope I'm wrong.

You're onto something here. The IF word: if the defense can't stifle bigger players; if the offense is a dud. Stewart at 6'4" was talented enough to compensate for the overall lack of height during her tenure. There is no current player with the versatility of Bre on both sides of the ball. So far Napheesa and Gabby have been defensive standouts; neither has been a scoring machine. But those two are succeeding regularly against taller players; they have been described as "ball magnets." Certain bigs will have the chance to score well against UConn (and anyone else), but they will have to be exceptionally athletic, AND Geno isn't going to try to guard, say, Aja with one forward. He is a genius at designing defenses that take away the best player an opponent has--big or small. I think most posters are correct in their optimism for the defense. The question is really scoring. My supposition here is that the scoring will likely be spread out more than usual, without the burden falling to any one or two players. IF I'm wrong, the Huskies could have 5 losses before Jan. 1. Won't happen.
 

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I believe there is NO WAY UCONN will hold most opponents to less than 60 points a game, especially the better teams. I think their biggest problem will be stopping the dribble drive to the basket. If Butler can regain her rebounding form that could help some but imo the defense will not be as good as some of you say and until the latter part of the season neither will the offense. The teams with taller players will give them problems. ND, Maryland, Baylor, SC and Texas will be hard to beat. I hope I'm wrong.
UCONN will hold most opponents under sixty points again this year because most teams are dreadful at shooting the basketball. Opponents shot 33% against UCONN last year. To average close to 60 Points a game opponents would have to shoot over 50% against UCONN this year. Last year UCONN only gave up an average of 48.3 Points/game. Only DePaul, ND, Maryland & Texas scored more than 60 points against UCONN. I agree that the defense is not going to be as good but it is not going to fall off a cliff either. The three big road games @ND, @ Maryland & @FSU (season opener) are the ones that concern me the most. Baylor, SC and Texas have yet to prove that they can win a big game on the road.
 

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UCONN will hold most opponents under sixty points again this year because most teams are dreadful at shooting the basketball. Opponents shot 33% against UCONN last year. To average close to 60 Points a game opponents would have to shoot over 50% against UCONN this year. Last year UCONN only gave up an average of 48.3 Points/game. Only DePaul, ND, Maryland & Texas scored more than 60 points against UCONN. I agree that the defense is not going to be as good but it is not going to fall off a cliff either. The three big road games @ND, @ Maryland & @FSU (season opener) are the ones that concern me the most. Baylor, SC and Texas have yet to prove that they can win a big game on the road.
Remember, Baylor, SC, and Texas will have better teams this season. Past performances will probably not apply to this season's teams.
 

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Remember, Baylor, SC, and Texas will have better teams this season. Past performances will probably not apply to this season's teams.

I guess I am always puzzled by these other teams will be better...

Texas loses

Boyette 11.3ppg 9rpg biggest reason others got easy basket as she was double teamed and their players could overplay on D with her as a rim protector.
Davenport 7ppg 3.2rpg 23.2 mins strong senior who could get buckets in end of clock situations
Rodrigo 5.1 ppg 4rpg 27.4 mins 140 assists, that is a big loss in the assist dept.

Baylor loses

Johnson 7ppg 34mins 5.2 rpg 321 assists, I repeat 321 assists!!!!
Higgins 3.2 ppg 4rpg smaller loss but Baylor plays with rotting bigs as they pick up fouls.

South Carolina loses

Mitchell 15ppg 3 rpg 31 mins 90 assts clutch player
Sessions 6.5ppg 3rpg 80 assts 45% from field and 38% from 3 both
Roy 6.1ppg 20.2 mins 75 assts 3 pt specialist that helped give space to bigs
Dozier 3ppg 18.2 mins 65 assts
Imovbioh 4.3 ppg 60% FG 5rpg 14.2 mins again a big to rotate as their bigs get in foul trouble
A lot of D and a lot of assists to their bigs just went out the door.

None reached the final four.
 
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If only the crystal ball (and we're not talking about Crystal and the ball) could tell us what was going to be instead of what might be then we could relax. I'm guessing but I think we'll start Nurse, Collier, Gabby, and KLS. Now no offense to Ms. Lawlor but we're pretty sure she won't expected to be a major contributor. That leaves us 5 young ladies we can draw from. Size will be Butler and Irwin. One is an untested freshman and the other was not able to contribute to much of the success last year, certainly in part due to the rough start with the thumb issue. Can either or both take time and space effectively? Good question. Chong is a senior and has had flashes during her career. Can she be consistent? Molly Bent and the aforementioned Dangerfield are the last two, Quickness but not big. So the reality is that Gabby and Pheesa will need to play bigger, something I think both can do. KLS will need to be consistent inside the arc as well as from 3 point land. Undefeated? Not likely. Can they win their last game of the year? Who knows before even First Night!
 

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Remember, Baylor, SC, and Texas will have better teams this season. Past performances will probably not apply to this season's teams.
Don't see how those teams are better. SC Lost two time SEC POY in Tiffany and the person who has been the heartbeat (go to player) of that team for the past three years. SC also lost Post depth in White's transfer and Ibonovich's to graduation. Baylor lost the best floor general it has had since Odessey graduated. Texas lost best player to come out of Texas in past 5-6 years in Imani Boyette.
 

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See that's the pie in sky. Won't know 'til next year. One can only look at what they have left and with all the talk about Uconns losses, it seems people forget just how much other teams have lost and that it is relative to each team and has an impact. The only team out of the group that is being talked about who lived up to their ranking was, wait for it Uconn! And they did it by about a whopping 40ppg. Those fans who think all of a sudden their teams are on top, well everyone has heard it before, how'd that work out for you.
 

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Don't see how those teams are better. SC Lost two time SEC POY in Tiffany and the person who has been the heartbeat (go to player) of that team for the past three years. SC also lost Post depth in White's transfer and Ibonovich's to graduation. Baylor lost the best floor general it has had since Odessey graduated. Texas lost best player to come out of Texas in past 5-6 years in Imani Boyette.

South Carolina picks up alot more offense on the perimeter with the addition of Kaela Davis and Alisha Gray. Both players are upgrades when compared to what they lose.
 

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Not if you consider that Davis never played team basketball and UNC didn't exactly show a lot of structure.
 

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South Carolina picks up alot more offense on the perimeter with the addition of Kaela Davis and Alisha Gray. Both players are upgrades when compared to what they lose.
You are kidding right! Kaela Avis-Has No D because she is defensively indifferent. I like Alisha Gray quite a bit but come on neither could carry Tiffany Mitchell's undergarments.
 
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Yes, but what players are they all gaining?
A few additional thoughts:
Personal opinion-Baylor, Notre Dame, and Texas have good coaches and another year in their system will make them better. All had strong recruiting years. BUT:
Geno is Geno-similar in many ways to Belichick of Pats. If team is smaller, they score through fast break, if offense stalls, they double down on defense, etc. Geno ALWAYS fits the offense and defense to the talent on hand. After losing 3 All Americans to graduation will their offense (and defense) be as good. Likely not. Will it be adequate. Always.
 

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Don't see how those teams are better. SC Lost two time SEC POY in Tiffany and the person who has been the heartbeat (go to player) of that team for the past three years. SC also lost Post depth in White's transfer and Ibonovich's to graduation. Baylor lost the best floor general it has had since Odessey graduated. Texas lost best player to come out of Texas in past 5-6 years in Imani Boyette.

Losing Mitchell hurts our backcourt the most because she was our only all-around guard last year, she could score and play defense and was very good at both. Our major deficiency the past few years has been our guard play offensively and whether you believe it or not, with the additions of Davis and Gray we take a major upgrade in those areas (when you compare the two to Dozier, Sessions, and Roy, yes a huge upgrade). Both Gray and Davis (along with Cuevas and Harris) can hurt you with their scoring. Dawn runs a defensive minded system here.. you don't come to SC if you don't want to play defense. If Davis couldn't play defense before, she will leave knowing how. She knew what she was getting into before she decided to transfer here, kids do their research. Gray, Cuevas and Harris are all capable defenders already and if history is to judge they will only improve (Mitchell, Dozier and Sessions left SC being very good defenders).

The departures of White and Imovbioh means Wilson and Coates get less rest during games.. but White hardly played at SC (unfortunately, I still hate losing her) and Imovbioh was a rebounding specialist. Her rebounding can be replaced. SC will have to compensate this loss of depth by playing more 4 out 1 in and less 2 big lineups.

SC got better at the guard position and still has their two best post players, one of them being the current SEC POY (Mitchell lost her dominant status on the team to that player). SC "should" be better this year. I can't really speak for the others because I don't know their rosters beyond the norm.


You are kidding right! Kaela Avis-Has No D because she is defensively indifferent. I like Alisha Gray quite a bit but come on neither could carry Tiffany Mitchell's undergarments.

Tiffany Mitchell is a big lost. The overall gain to our backcourt is bigger than her loss in my opinion.

Pick your backcourt... Group 1. - Kaela Davis, Allisha Gray, Bianca Cuevas (or Tyasha Harris) vs. Group 2. - Khadijah Sessions, Tiffany Mitchell, Asia Dozier (or Tina Roy).

If you picked Group 1. then you also think SC will be better this year.


FWIW, I'm not arguing that UCONN is the only team that had big losses last year (and I'm not white knighting, but I don't think the other poster was either). I think what he's trying to say is that when you compare who lost who and who gained what.. that UCONN had the biggest loss. Nobody knows how Samuelson, Collier and Nurse will respond to having to carry UCONN but what we do know is that losing Stewart, Tuck and Jefferson would be a HUGE loss for any team. Those three beat teams by themselves. It's not a slight against the huskies, it's more complimentary to exactly how good those three were. When Tuck, Stewart and Jefferson stepped on the court last season, UCONN already knew for a fact that they were better at the C, PF and PG positions.. no matter the team, those three were better. That won't be the case this season.. at least not at this point.

Who really knows though, there could be no drop-off for UCONN at all. Just like SC could regress at the backcourt, Baylor's bigs could prove to be worthless and Notre Dame's guards can suddenly forget how to shoot.
 
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UCONN will hold most opponents under sixty points again this year because most teams are dreadful at shooting the basketball. Opponents shot 33% against UCONN last year. To average close to 60 Points a game opponents would have to shoot over 50% against UCONN this year. Last year UCONN only gave up an average of 48.3 Points/game. Only DePaul, ND, Maryland & Texas scored more than 60 points against UCONN. I agree that the defense is not going to be as good but it is not going to fall off a cliff either. The three big road games @ND, @ Maryland & @FSU (season opener) are the ones that concern me the most. Baylor, SC and Texas have yet to prove that they can win a big game on the road.


Uconn's defense is their offense. I know Stewie, Moriah and Tuck were excellent on defense and from that scored a more than reasonable number of layups.
Geno, I believe, will set up his defense much differently than in the past 3 plus years. We are going to know very quickly how good Uconn D really is; I suspect it will be exactly as you expect. ND is always a tough place to play. Md is a physically tough game. FSU
with their foreign influence is usually a scoring machine. ND worries ME the most.
Baylor--with Griner won on the road--how good are Baylors bigs???
 

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Uconn's defense is their offense. I know Stewie, Moriah and Tuck were excellent on defense and from that scored a more than reasonable number of layups.
Geno, I believe, will set up his defense much differently than in the past 3 plus years. We are going to know very quickly how good Uconn D really is; I suspect it will be exactly as you expect. ND is always a tough place to play. Md is a physically tough game. FSU
with their foreign influence is usually a scoring machine. ND worries ME the most.
Baylor--with Griner won on the road--how good are Baylors bigs???
Baylor's bigs Montpremier & Brown are good but not great. Cox has potential to become real special and Davis is already special for her size.
 
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I see higher points from Collier & Gabby as starters, maybe in the 13/14 realm.
Given our opponents weaknesses, I can see Butler's height, and the ability of others to get her the ball
in the right place, realizing 10 or more easy.

With less mobile bigs on the opponents Butler is a pretty decent scorer, inside and out. Her defense needs tweeking from last year.
I agree that Collier and Gabby will score more--Collier has the ability to light it up and if she has a solid 3--she could be averaging high teens, Katie Lou I believe shall impress everyone --attacking the basket off the dribble, rebounding , and her omnipresent 3 shot and rebounding.
 
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Baylor's bigs Montpremier & Brown are good but not great. Cox has potential to become real special and Davis is already special for her size.
I think Gabby is athletic enough to cancel out Davis under the basket. Cox was highly recruited--the question is how good is she in Div1 competition and as a Frosh.
So that leaves Butler and Katie Lou going up against Montpremier and Brown--OK COCO--weaknesses and strengths???
What do you think??
 
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You're onto something here. The IF word: if the defense can't stifle bigger players; if the offense is a dud. Stewart at 6'4" was talented enough to compensate for the overall lack of height during her tenure. There is no current player with the versatility of Bre on both sides of the ball. So far Napheesa and Gabby have been defensive standouts; neither has been a scoring machine. But those two are succeeding regularly against taller players; they have been described as "ball magnets." Certain bigs will have the chance to score well against UConn (and anyone else), but they will have to be exceptionally athletic, AND Geno isn't going to try to guard, say, Aja with one forward. He is a genius at designing defenses that take away the best player an opponent has--big or small. I think most posters are correct in their optimism for the defense. The question is really scoring. My supposition here is that the scoring will likely be spread out more than usual, without the burden falling to any one or two players. IF I'm wrong, the Huskies could have 5 losses before Jan. 1. Won't happen.

If we are Uconn Fans--we have lots of reasons to be optimistic!!
Collier was a pretty good scorer in the USA games. Last year she had 4 issues against her scoring--Stew, Moriah, Tuck, injured hip.
Now without that impediment she shall have the demand on her to score--Geno will not accept Katie Lou, Gabby, Butler, Collier or Chong (if healthy) to NOT score--they can no longer be cheerleaders (I'll bet Geno uses that one)--they will be expected to play hard defense, and score--Katile Lou, Collier and Gabby must be looking to score--or sit. Bet on it.

5 loses before 1 Jan are possible--if they happen the world won't end nor will Uconn's possibility to win the NC.. I accept a few losses--I don't expect them--Geno has won National Championships with loses--and certainly has made the final 4 with loses. A loss is not the end for Uconn. In Geno I believe. Do YOU??
 
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I was expecting a lot from NB last year and she just didn't do it. So I won't predict big things this year and I didn't see a lot last year so I'm thinking she is Will Crockett.

The team by the end of the year will play small ball. If everyone remains healthy big teams will also have problems guarding UCONN and Geno will develop the defense. I think they need to fend off offensive rebounding and three point shooting the most. Three point shooting because vs certain teams they won't be very good rebounding the ball therefore they'll have to pack it in more which means less fatsbreaks at the other end too.

Playing small ball - Gabby really needs to be able score along with KLS, NC, KN and I believe The Real Danger will be a decent scorer in the mold of Khalid El Amin by the 2nd half of the season - we'll have a gritty team in which everything will need to roll right. But I believe small ball will be the way and we'll try to use matchups to work on getting post-up baskets. Heck even KN could maybe do something inside vs small guards.
 
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