Has Diamond D. been granted her release by UNC?

[chip]

So DD is transferring, but has she been granted her release by UNC? As Leticia Romero (Kansas State) discovered it is not necessarily an automatic issue. Do we know if UNC has released Diamond from her LOI?

 

[UcMiami]

The release allows an athlete to go to another school on scholarship even during the year she (or he) is required to sit out. Without the release she can still go anywhere, but has to pay her way for that first year. And the release has no effect on the sit out year, nor I believe the two year sit out within conference.

 

[Marie Diaz]

I wonder if UNC is going to restrict DD to transfer to another school? Happens a lot on the men's side when the coach or AD doesn't want the player to go to a certain school, particularly OOC schools that they're going to play the next year like this one: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...l-house-houston-cougars-transfer-restrictions

which totally sucks and gives the university and coach a bad rep.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

I would assume from the wording of the original report that UNC has or will. Whether they restrict it or not is another issue, but I suspect not. There is also the possibility raised elsewhere that she may go pro overseas.

 

[intlzncster]

I would assume from the wording of the original report that UNC has or will. Whether they restrict it or not is another issue, but I suspect not. There is also the possibility raised elsewhere that she may go pro overseas.

I don't see the pro angle at all. Her family has tons of money. Delino made $30million playing baseball in salary alone.

 

[formerlurker]

I would assume from the wording of the original report that UNC has or will. Whether they restrict it or not is another issue, but I suspect not. There is also the possibility raised elsewhere that she may go pro overseas.

I don't see the pro angle at all. Her family has tons of money. Delino made $30million playing baseball in salary alone.

She wouldn't be going to Europe for the cash, she'd be going for the freedom from the NCAA regulations.

 

[formerlurker]

She'd get paid in Europe and give up her NCAA eligibility but she could still go into the WNBA draft when qualified.

 

[Larry67]

ESPNW mentioned Tennessee as a possible transfer school since her mother was an athlete there. No other schools were mentioned.

 

[HuskyNan]

The release allows an athlete to go to another school on scholarship even during the year she (or he) is required to sit out. Without the release she can still go anywhere, but has to pay her way for that first year. And the release has no effect on the sit out year, nor I believe the two year sit out within conference.

IIRC, not all conferences require the additional year if you transfer to another school within the conference. The Big East did require it; I'm not sure which other conferences do.

 

[sawxfan23]

IIRC, not all conferences require the additional year if you transfer to another school within the conference. The Big East did require it; I'm not sure which other conferences do.

The ACC penalty for a transfer within conference is a "sit one lose one" penalty. Meaning she must sit out one year while not on scholarship and she loses one year of eligibility. Here is a pdf I found explaining it in detail.

http://compliance.pac-10.org/ccacaitems/surveys/ictransfers.pdf

 

[Ozzie Nelson]

Seems to me that she wants to play pro, not college, ball. If she left NC in April, it is before finals. As a University Prof for many years, I have seen literally hundreds of students just get up and leave, at any point. College was not for them. I think is is at least a possibility.

Perhaps a few weeks away will add perspective. She is young, and mind changes are allowed. I clearly remember what an ill informed, clumsy doofOZ I was at that age.

 

[VAMike23]

I thought the pro angle was a possibility too, but Nan said it looked like Tennessee based on multiple reports..... unless there are any new developments (I haven't checked the News thread in a few days)

 

[UConnChapette]

Will this count against the APR score for UNC? Serious question...not trying to start any bashting. But after UConn's penalty, makes me think this is the kind of thing that will hurt UNC's APR.

 

[Ozzie Nelson]

I thought the pro angle was a possibility too, but Nan said it looked like Tennessee based on multiple reports..... unless there are any new developments (I haven't checked the News thread in a few days)

IAC, she has to sit for a year and remain free of pro compensation, and if she is at a University, establish academic eligibility. If she is not at a University, and is not in any sense a part of a team, other obvious issues ensue.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Will this count against the APR score for UNC? Serious question...not trying to start any bashting. But after UConn's penalty, makes me think this is the kind of thing that will hurt UNC's APR.

If she is academically eligible at the end of the semester and has a GPA above 2.5, then there is no impact. If she is eligible but has a low GPA, then UNC loses 1 point (out of a team total of about 52 for the year). If she is not academically eligible when she leaves then 2 points are lost. For a program to get into major trouble, it has to lose almost 20 points over a rolling 4-year period.

 

[UcMiami]

I would assume from the wording of the original report that UNC has or will. Whether they restrict it or not is another issue, but I suspect not. There is also the possibility raised elsewhere that she may go pro overseas.

Not sure of that - sounded as if Sylvia knew nothing until the news broke and that she was at the team dinner the night before. I would say the process has just begun.
Also ... I believe the NCAA is pretty clear that coaches and schools cannot make contact with a player from another school for any reason while they are enrolled at the other school or unless they have permission to be in contact. And it doesn't matter if the player initiates contact or not. So I don't thick DD has any idea where she will be going yet - she may assume any school will be thrilled to get her, but I suspect that is not the case.
I am trying to remember how things worked for the Uconn player who transferred to St Johns, but I believe Uconn granted the release within the conference and that allowed her to only sit one year instead of the two mandated by the BE. The one year I believe is NCAA mandated and is only lifted for dire personal reasons - the one instance I remember was because of a dying relative and specific to a transfer to the local school.

 

[Bill In Georgia]

ESPNW mentioned Tennessee as a possible transfer school since her mother was an athlete there. No other schools were mentioned.

Georgia & Andy Landers....

 

[ThisJustIn]

If anyone is advising her to go into prof. ball directly after her freshamn year, thet are not being wise on so many levels. No one is going to hire a kid who was homesick over a few hundred miles....

Im hoping she sticks to college ball.... And gets an education. Wbball is not a money pot... Gotta plan beyond 32yrs old....

 

[Wbbfan1]

Hometown Article: http://www.gwinnettprepsports.com/news/2014/apr/17/norcross-grad-deshields-to-leave-unc-basketball/ Reading this article, I can't believe that UNC didn't know that Diamond was considering transferring. Probably surprised at the timing of the request.

 

[magic]

IIRC, not all conferences require the additional year if you transfer to another school within the conference. The Big East did require it; I'm not sure which other conferences do.

Nan, I hope you can help with my confusion. I was always under the impression that transferring meant that the player had to sit out one year " according to ncaa rules, regardless where they tranferred to even if given a release by their original school ? Now, if the student pays for school that one transfer season, they would be able to play ? This would also be contingent on league rules ?

 

[HuskyNan]

Nan, I hope you can help with my confusion. I was always under the impression that transferring meant that the player had to sit out one year " according to ncaa rules, regardless where they tranferred to even if given a release by their original school ? Now, if the student pays for school that one transfer season, they would be able to play ? This would also be contingent on league rules ?

If a player transfers to another school, the NCAA mandates that she sit out one year. Some, but not all, conferences tack on another year if the player transfers within the conference, therefore the player would have to sit out two years in certain circumstances. A coach can release the player unconditionally and therefore waive the second year, as Geno did when Kia Wright left UConn to go to St. John's (the NYC kid was very homesick).

If a girl is granted a release, she sits out the NCAA mandated year but is on scholarship and can practice with the team. If she is not granted a release, she may leave the school but must sit out the year without a scholarship. I'm not sure what happens to the second year if she transfers within a conference - I think each conference has its own rules.

As far as I know, current rules only allow students whose schools have received the death penalty to transfer to another Div I school and play immediately (I could be wrong on this, though). If a player goes to a Div II or III school, she can play right away. The NCAA is contemplating a hardship exception but it isn't in effect yet.

I hope that helps.

 

[Vowelguy]

No one is going to hire a kid who was homesick over a few hundred miles....

Do we know that being homesick was the reason?

 

[Kibitzer]

I clearly remember what an ill informed, clumsy doofOZ I was at that age.

It is comforting to know that you successfully overcame that phase in your life. Regrettably, there remain some of us who cannot justify making the same claim.

(Don't everybody jump up at once!)

 

[intlzncster]

Will this count against the APR score for UNC? Serious question...not trying to start any bashting. But after UConn's penalty, makes me think this is the kind of thing that will hurt UNC's APR.

After the UCONN 'example', no major school will fall afoul of the APR ever again. It is an accounting measure. It won't even be relevant, as departments will be sure to collect the necessary points.

 

[intlzncster]

Not sure of that - sounded as if Sylvia knew nothing until the news broke and that she was at the team dinner the night before. I would say the process has just begun.
Also ... I believe the NCAA is pretty clear that coaches and schools cannot make contact with a player from another school for any reason while they are enrolled at the other school or unless they have permission to be in contact. And it doesn't matter if the player initiates contact or not. So I don't thick DD has any idea where she will be going yet - she may assume any school will be thrilled to get her, but I suspect that is not the case.
I am trying to remember how things worked for the Uconn player who transferred to St Johns, but I believe Uconn granted the release within the conference and that allowed her to only sit one year instead of the two mandated by the BE. The one year I believe is NCAA mandated and is only lifted for dire personal reasons - the one instance I remember was because of a dying relative and specific to a transfer to the local school.

I thought a kid is allowed to contact other schools when she leaves the school and decides to transfer, either herself or an intermediary (?). Other schools cannot initiate contact though. Maybe the current school has to give permission idr. Has Diamond even left the Chapel Hill campus?

I don't agree with the bold. Any school in America would be absolutely thrilled to have her. I think this board's bias is getting in the way of reality here.