Edsall is cleaning up a mess at UConn; let’s give him the benefit of the doubt, shall we? (DiMauro) | The Boneyard

Edsall is cleaning up a mess at UConn; let’s give him the benefit of the doubt, shall we? (DiMauro)

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"Why are you bound to a honoring commitment somebody else made?"

This is exactly the faulty logic - the somebody is UConn.
 
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"Why are you bound to a honoring commitment somebody else made?"

This is exactly the faulty logic - the somebody is UConn.

... and the offer letter specifically states that the scholarship offer is dependent on "availability of scholarships remaining at your recruited position."

One can assume that after the new staff finished evaluating the roster (and the glut of bodies @ certain positions)- they may have reshuffled the needs to be different than Diaco etal.
 

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Edsall had a moral dilemma on his hands--two crappy choices, and he unfortunately had the task of making the least crappy of the two options. That's what he did. It's hard to believe that Edsall finds joy in making kids unhappy, but it's unreasonable that he should just throw around scholarships that he never even offered just because he doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. College football coaches have too short of a leash for that kind of decision making.
 
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Wow.....getting defended by the local media. "Cleaning up a mess".
Someone should send that to Nebraska press.

Imagine what it'says going to be like "when" we turn the corner and win???
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if Edsall is getting his side of the story out through the local press. If he's smart that's exactly what he's doing.
Could be, but even immediate reactions on Twitter were supportive. Either way, I'm taking it as positive.
 

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It should be interesting to see how the threads on this topic survive the new temery "no threads shall be over a week old" policy....lol.

Hopefully we have moved on by then and we are talking about our new recruits.
 
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It should be interesting to see how the threads on this topic survive the new temery "no threads shall be over a week old" policy....lol.

Hopefully we have moved on by then and we are talking about our new recruits.
Think the policy is if there hasn't been a response within a week. I think.
 

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It's bad enough that I had to agree entirely with Blauds on this. Now DiMauro too? Jesus.

You know the Apocalypse coming now especially with Trump being president :)
 
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"Why are you bound to a honoring commitment somebody else made?"

This is exactly the faulty logic - the somebody is UConn.

So, when Herbst came in she should have left the entire administration in place. And when Benedict came in, he should have left all in place, including Big Bob. And RE should've retained all of Diaco's coaches. And, ..... There was a change. Change begets change. We brought this staff in to win, and win with the players they thought best.

Have you ever been brought in to a company/group/firm to make improvements? Did you leave everything exactly where it was when you got there?
 
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So, when Herbst came in she should have left the entire administration in place. And when Benedict came in, he should have left all in place, including Big Bob. And RE should've retained all of Diaco's coaches. And, ..... There was a change. Change begets change. We brought this staff in to win, and win with the players they thought best.

Have you ever been brought in to a company/group/firm to make improvements? Did you leave everything exactly where it was when you got there?
None of these journalists have any experience running organizations, or teams or business units. They are for the most part parties of one, free agents who don't have to lead others yet believe hey should opine on the best way to do so. It's actually laughable to think they have any clue how to turn something around. So they write about an individual episode , claim faux outrage and then hope they get clicks. They're also so insular (of course not as much as Fiasco but I digress) that they then pat each other on the back and give a 'huzzah'. Most of us don't claim to be journalists. Journalists shouldnt present themselves as turnaround specialists
 
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OK here's what I don't get. According to the Rivals recruiting site- UConn now only has 10 commits for 2017. Their class doesn't even make the top 100. Signing day is in less than two weeks away. It would be one thing if we thought Edsall was going to bring in 8 or 9 new recruits between now and then to fill out the class and had no more room. But that doesn't look likely. So it is likely UConn will enter next season with less than the 85 maximum player limit on scholarship which puts them in a hole. Giving a player who really wanted to come here and seems to have some football skills based on his recruiting write up doesn't hurt. Maybe he never starts but provides valuable special teams play - but would not hurt the scholarship #s . So this whole mess doesn't make sense.
 
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OK here's what I don't get. According to the Rivals recruiting site- UConn now only has 10 commits for 2017. Their class doesn't even make the top 100. Signing day is in less than two weeks away. It would be one thing if we thought Edsall was going to bring in 8 or 9 new recruits between now and then to fill out the class and had no more room. But that doesn't look likely. So it is likely UConn will enter next season with less than the 85 maximum player limit on scholarship which puts them in a hole. Giving a player who really wanted to come here and seems to have some football skills based on his recruiting write up doesn't hurt. Maybe he never starts but provides valuable special teams play - but would not hurt the scholarship #s . So this whole mess doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense. You don't take up a scholarship on kids who aren't good enough. It's pretty simple actually.
 
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It's bad enough that I had to agree entirely with Blauds on this. Now DiMauro too? Jesus.
You know the Apocalypse coming now especially with Trump being president :)
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OK here's what I don't get. According to the Rivals recruiting site- UConn now only has 10 commits for 2017. Their class doesn't even make the top 100. Signing day is in less than two weeks away. It would be one thing if we thought Edsall was going to bring in 8 or 9 new recruits between now and then to fill out the class and had no more room. But that doesn't look likely. So it is likely UConn will enter next season with less than the 85 maximum player limit on scholarship which puts them in a hole. Giving a player who really wanted to come here and seems to have some football skills based on his recruiting write up doesn't hurt. Maybe he never starts but provides valuable special teams play - but would not hurt the scholarship #s . So this whole mess doesn't make sense.

They kid would taking a spot for up to 5 years.
 
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OK here's what I don't get. According to the Rivals recruiting site- UConn now only has 10 commits for 2017. Their class doesn't even make the top 100. Signing day is in less than two weeks away. It would be one thing if we thought Edsall was going to bring in 8 or 9 new recruits between now and then to fill out the class and had no more room. But that doesn't look likely. So it is likely UConn will enter next season with less than the 85 maximum player limit on scholarship which puts them in a hole. Giving a player who really wanted to come here and seems to have some football skills based on his recruiting write up doesn't hurt. Maybe he never starts but provides valuable special teams play - but would not hurt the scholarship #s . So this whole mess doesn't make sense.


You're driving down the road and notice 2 things- you have 1/4 tank of gas and the gas station on the corner is charging $10/gallon. Do you stop there to fill up your car?
 
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So, when Herbst came in she should have left the entire administration in place. And when Benedict came in, he should have left all in place, including Big Bob. And RE should've retained all of Diaco's coaches. And, ..... There was a change. Change begets change. We brought this staff in to win, and win with the players they thought best.

Have you ever been brought in to a company/group/firm to make improvements? Did you leave everything exactly where it was when you got there?
You miss the point. Third parties dealing with UConn are dealing with UConn. We are not talking internal employees. Your logic is if a contractor had a contract with UConn to build a building that was made before Hetbst took over then Herbst can cancel it because she want President. It doesn't work that way. The same applies with Fiasco. He respresents the University and people are entitled to rely on his representations as representations of the University.

Now, because commits are non-binding until signing day, there is not any contract like the contractor situation. So, many argue that RE's conduct on behalf of UConn is fine because there was no firm legal obligation. On this point, if RE really did make verbal assurances as HC in January, then there is possible liability for what is known as detrimental reliance - which means somebody with apparent authority to bind the University made representations that a reasonable would be believe and relying on their truth the person took action that resulted in harm or loss (i.e., rejecting other offers of scholarships for paid tuition).
Beyond the legal, there is a basic issue of ethics and institutional character. Many argue everybody does what RE did so no harm. The question is do we believe UConn is better? Do we believe UConn is not another run of the mill school or is it a flagship representative of our State reflecting the values and ethics of its people. UConn is more than a losing football team in dire need of rebuilding.
So, these things do matter. They matter beyond football. I choose to believe we can do better than what was done, and win precisely because UConn is special and better than other schlock state schools operating as football mills. If you want a top 20 education cometo UConn. If you want a tradition where we honor our word come to UConn. If you want a school that will invest in winning the right way come to UConn.
 
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You miss the point. Third parties dealing with UConn are dealing with UConn. We are not talking internal employees. Your logic is if a contractor had a contract with UConn to build a building that was made before Hetbst took over then Herbst can cancel it because she want President. It doesn't work that way. The same applies with Fiasco. He respresents the University and people are entitled to rely on his representations as representations of the University.

Now, because commits are non-binding until signing day, there is not any contract like the contractor situation. So, many argue that RE's conduct on behalf of UConn is fine because there was no firm legal obligation. On this point, if RE really did make verbal assurances as HC in January, then there is possible liability for what is known as detrimental reliance - which means somebody with apparent authority to bind the University made representations that a reasonable would be believe and relying on their truth the person took action that resulted in harm or loss (i.e., rejecting other offers of scholarships for paid tuition).
Beyond the legal, there is a basic issue of ethics and institutional character. Many argue everybody does what RE did so no harm. The question is do we believe UConn is better? Do we believe UConn is not another run of the mill school or is it a flagship representative of our State reflecting the values and ethics of its people. UConn is more than a losing football team in dire need of rebuilding.
So, these things do matter. They matter beyond football. I choose to believe we can do better than what was done, and win precisely because UConn is special and better than other schlock state schools operating as football mills. If you want a top 20 education cometo UConn. If you want a tradition where we honor our word come to UConn. If you want a school that will invest in winning the right way come to UConn.

Lol. This entire post is filled with complete nonsense.
 

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