From Brian Ethridge at Baylor 247: Some interesting things sent to me today from the SEC source: 1. VT and NCState are the two for the SEC 2. UNC is seen as a huge pain in the 3. GT was asked to hold on for a little while by the big 12 sending them to the sec who said, "no." 4. GT now in waiting for Big 12 5. UVA could be in play for Big 12 6. UVA is seen as cross conference rival with VT in SEC
In reality all this changes for the SEC's when the new contract is announced. A new contract heralds the end of expansion talk until the landscape changes. The two obvious new states for the SEC are NC and VA. Will NC State and V Tech add any national value for CBS? The problem with expansion after this Summer is simple: the contracts are all newly minted and there's no new events or technical changes driving expansion for a few years
UVA to the SEC is laughable...Littlepage would be run out of town on a rail, VTech maybe....doubtful at best unless the ACC dies. UVA alumni would revolt in Notre Dame fashion...top public academic school aligned with the SEC, please
Who said anything about UVA to the SEC? B12 was mentioned, and I would say that UT is a better academic school than UVA.
"How much autonomy Texas needs" - they have their own conference with their own tier 3 network that started all the trouble, and a portion of the TV money based on appearances, not a pure equal split. They will give up all those things to go to another conference. That's why you keep hearing about expansion rumors from the Big 12 - because Texas is trying to keep together a good enough collection of teams to validate their league with the others.
Well, events on the ground have changed so Texas is not going anywhere. I do think the Pac 12's quality problem is still there, and I don't think adding BYU and Boise is out of the question for that league. BYU would have been the best basketball program in the league last year, and probably the 4th or 5th best football team. Boise would have been the first or second best football team in the league. The Pac 12 can not continue to stink it up on the court and be mediocre on the gridiron and remain nationally relevant.
It is go0d entertainment watching all the speculation: Courtesy of @TuxedoYoda - The ACC should be worried: "The Big 12 Conference has a lot of money. The Atlantic Coast Conference should be worried. And Florida State fans should not quickly dismiss the rumors. That is the simplest way to summarize a week spent in Kansas City. Start first with the obvious: The Big 12 has money right now that the ACC doesn’t." http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20120603/fsu03/120603010/lamar-column-big-12-money-tough-ignore
Some interesting things sent to me today from the SEC source: 1. VT and NCState are the two for the SEC 2. UNC is seen as a huge pain in the 3. GT was asked to hold on for a little while by the big 12 sending them to the sec who said, "no." 4. GT now in waiting for Big 12 5. UVA could be in play for Big 12 6. UVA is seen as cross conference rival with VT in SEC See number 6...should have also included number 5. You would be wrong on the UT UVA comparison, #2 public university.
“@schadjoe: John Swofford: In the BCS room there are five power conferences” ACC Commish wishing harder.
Check this one out...(must have woke up still drunk) @AngryClemsonFan - Supposedly the ACC presidents are meeting at 10 this morning to vote on Notre Dame membership. I can't envision any reason why ND would want to be a full member equal to everyone else. I also can't envision a scenario of partial memberships that will sit well with anyone. Swofford's last stand.
He also says the ACC is trying to add WVU. Angry Clemson Fan@AngryClemsonFan Also hearing that the ACC is now trying to add WVU at the 11th hour. Should have been doing this last year....
Pitt and Syracuse are two extra votes for WVU. Hard to imagine WVU abandoning the Big 12 this late - have all the agreements been signed? What penalty would they have to pay? Presumably it would include what the Big 12 paid the Big East. I don't think it could happen, unless Notre Dame made its own entry conditional on WVU. Most unlikely. All I really know for sure is that Swofford is an idiot.
I'm not even sure that being drunk would explain that. Has to be something stronger, or perhaps a mental illness of some sort. Of course I have to admit that it would be beyond funny if THAT guy ended up being correct,
Why in God's name would they want to go the ACC? Getting turned down was the best thing that ever happened to them.
How true! WVU must have felt like they walked into a coal mine and hit a gold mine. Problem is that most of their fans aren't shy about telling you that, either.
For comedic value only... follow this Twitter Convo from this afternoon (bottom up for timeline): 3h David South @DavidSouth1 @theDudeofWV Bell is one of afternoon radio guys in ATL. An FSU with connections Was way out in front on BB stepping down, Jimbo hire 3h David South @DavidSouth1@theDudeofWV ESPN would love to stick that fork in NBC after 2015 4h David South @DavidSouth1@theDudeofWV As you know all that matters is money. Bell reports ND would get to advise on 16th ACC team with their 1 1/2 shares of revunue 4h David South @DavidSouth1@theDudeofWV ND + 1 More would only have to jump ACC up from 17 Mil to 24 Mil, which could seem likely with crazy ND following. 4h David South @DavidSouth1@IngramSmith @theDudeofWV Reworked ACC Deal with ND as full member - worth 24 MIL per team ND gets 1 1/2 shares = 36 MIL others get 23.2 MIL 4h David South @DavidSouth1@IngramSmith @theDudeofWV Mike Bell reporting ACC offers ND full membership, 1 1/2 shares compared conference 1 so 24 mil @ ACC w/ND= 36MIL Has the Clemson and FSU folks in an uproar.
Why not raise the ACC contract to $30 mn per team and give ND 2 shares for $60 mn, $27.4 mn for the other teams? Nice to know it's so easy to outbid other conferences.
