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Maybe a regional thing like hockey....The latest Coach's Poll Top 25 has 9 from SEC (10 if you count Oklahoma as SEC) and 7 from the ACC.

There is a lot of fact finding to go before a judge makes a decision based on found facts and points of law.

Both suits hinge on the ESPN Agreement. We can surmise but can’t really have a too educated opinion. Personally, I think that the ACC has liabilities in this case. You may think differently and that’s ok.

No point other than that you can’t tell much about the case since the most relevant portions were redacted. And that none of us have access so we only know the allegations.

You replied to a unadorned informational link to the Clemson suit... You don't think that Clemson has any legs...OK...goody for you. Other than antagonism...what point are you trying to make ? Nah...belay that.

Are you claiming that because the public doesn't know all of the details of hundreds of millions of dollars in the agreed upon business dealings between ESPN and the ACC it should be invalidated? nope...What the public knows has no bearing. What the Members know of the ESPN Agreement is what...

If you read Clemson's filing (posted up a bit)...you will see that portions of the ESPN contract are referenced in the filing and are blacked out on the court documents available to the public...

Clemson's filing....details suit... https://publicindex.sccourts.org/Pickens/PublicIndex/PIImageDisplay.aspx?ctagency=39002&doctype=D&docid=1713376975832-575&HKey=12011475998578825410069657910289549771569810790107738868118103121889772501201217710455875110712077111

LOL. Anti UConn posts.

When the Top 25 includes 9 SEC teams (counting Oklahoma) and the ACC 7…. Conference does play in. IMHO

Oklahoma is the current King Kong...won 5 of last 7 national championships...with only FSU and UCLA breaking through. Oklahoma and Arizona, in the same conference would have been fun.

The OBE was always partial to a faction...and the power of the ACC has been Tobacco Road... North Carolina has four teams in the conference, the ACC offices are in North Carolina, the majority of championship tournaments will be in North Carolina...Swofford was a UNC Old Boy with a building on...

Yes

Huh? I don't understand...if the argument is fair dealing, open and transparent (they have only asked the court to define what the contracts mean)...I don't see it. If you mean general unhappiness with the ACC...I think DLandy said something re UConn that hit me as also true for FSU.. That's...

McMurpjy is uninformed on the subject re Florida..obviously. ...just maybe different states have different laws re what are confidential and not public information. But...that is not as click worthy as his "rah, rah, Big 12" comment. Case Law exists in Florida...the NCAA tried to maintain...

Maybe...the magnetic poles will once again shift... Basketball ...could it start carrying more weight ? The magnetic poles switched in the 90's. Basketball was more of the breadwinner than football and then..boom ! Football started taking off in media contracts. Example...When FSU joined...

I do think that the Big 12 might augment basketball with UConn and Duke.

The FSU AD's answer to a question from boosters while in Chicago. Booster question..."Will we be able to drive to games soon ?" Answer..."You can drive to Patagonia. It's all in the want to. "

I guess, if you are in pain, you react to the word “painless “. I was actually thinking of the ease that the Borg have had consolidating and pushing their agenda.

The cartel captured the CFP. The media money….and no kickback yet that worries them.

Painlessly for the perpetrators. No law suits. No sweat for the B1G and SEC.

He really said "keeping the Big Four together"......UNC, Wake, Duke, NC State..... ACC think...not bad for basketball though.

It is indeed thinning the herd...Actuallythe herd was thinned thinned it a ways back, almost painlessly... First P5 and G5...then P4...then P2 I think that the Big 12 may go the opposite way. Try to take UConn, Duke, Virginia...and be the premier basketball conference.

The problem with UConn’s resume is that it points to an 8-5 year and a blowout bowl as the primo year. You get more latitude when you finish top 10 once…more so for multiple appearances.

She wouldn't contact the North Carolia group...the AG reps the voters...and North Carolina and their four ACC teams have a lot invested in the conference. Cuse and Boston College may seen as "captives" since the ACC may be their best spot...they may have an interest in holding the ACC...

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

Yeah. Another personal attack. Bye now

Nah. The players opted out. And I can’t blame them. We’ll see more nfl bound opt outs in the future.

FSU's team decided a big blah was due (why play?)...half the starters didn't go to the bowl, the QB's didn't go...leaving a third string true freshman to play. Only Michigan and Washington had more players invited to the NFL Combine. Those missing starters were the team.

"what's your call on the flag?" "false start..I saw a twitch..didn't you ?"

And a lot of FSU guys thought it was a good day for FSU...three issues heard,,,two ruled in favor of FSU...the third, personal jurisdiction...is postponed. The judge said "amend the filing to be more specific on the issue and we'll reconvene. He even instructed FSU lawyers on what he wanted to...

Right. End result is same.

Looking OK for FSU so far...judge held for fSU on two out of three issues and the third issue will be argued after an amended filing. Judge Cooper is being diligent. Re what this means in terms of settlement ? Who knows. The case has not really begun...nobody has been disposed, no records...

2 pm... Cooper reiterating that this is not a dismissal of the case, but a "dismissal with leave to amend." He says that is very common in civil cases and doesn't mean anything in the big picture. Just that he wants the FSU attorneys to file a more clear amended complaint. But it does mean a...

...ACC attorney is reiterating her argument that FSU's complaint doesn't meet the requirements for "long-arm statute" for personal jurisdiction. ...Judge Cooper is ruling that FSU will have to amend its complaint to make a clear statement of personal jurisdiction. Makes it clear that he’s not...