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UNC and UVA were in the same conference with Tennessee and Georgia and Alabama long ago. UNC didn’t even play a B10 team the first 60 years it played football. We should never be in a Midwest league. We are much more aligned with Atlanta and Nashville (SEC champ cities) than Chicago or...

I've only found they signed a contract in 2012 for $350k payout per school. It was an 8-year contract with ESPN/CBS/NBC that was extended in 2020.

It gets even more complicated when you start discussing sports teams. The Whalers moved in part because of they were losing the turf war in a crowded marketplace, regardless of the number of people inside their circle. Have to look at a whole host of data and then figure out how best to...

Because not all places are built the same. A 30-mile circle around Hartford would get into Springfield and the outskirts of the NYC and Boston CSAs. The same circle around Raleigh wouldn't get you to Hillsborough, Sanford, or Dunn (all which send a steady amount of commuters to Raleigh). Circles...

Different areas utilize distances in different ways for a variety of reasons. Metro areas are limiting and distortable, but so are straight up drawing circles around cities.

Distances are different though depending on where you are in the country. There’s more land in the Midwest than the Norheast, ergo cities are built differently.

All the public universities are overseen by a single UNC System Board of Governors/President (and have been forever). The individual schools have their own Chancellors/Board of Trustees however.

You shut your mouth

From 2010-2019, current ACC basketball teams won 5 NCAA titles, played in 6 title games, went to 9 FFs, 20 E8s, and 36 S16s. So an average year that decade saw those teams get 3-4 S16 teams, 2 E8 teams, and a coin flip if they won the national title. People don’t care about the bottom if the top...

The ACC didn’t give it away, the relative programs just declined. Syracuse, NC State, Louisville, Pitt, Notre Dame, Wake Forest. Even the two flagships have seen their HOF coaches retire.

Even the slowed-down Hubert version is still fairly up-tempo.

Notre Dame is actually exactly who I was thinking of lol.

I mean an AP #1 finish is both a poll and a championship. USC was the last true AP champion, but some of the biggest names in sports history built their resumes off the backs of polls and selectors and whatnot. Bear Bryant won a couple AP titles and then promptly lost the bowl game.

Hanging banners for final AP #1’s is fairly common though.

Starting in the '20s, it became a kind of journalistic parlor trick to crown the national champions in football, a regional sport with limited crossover games. Over the next several decades, those who came up with criteria to figure out the current national champion started to use their criteria...

But the only B12 teams they respect are leaving this year. Next year this would be two SEC and 2 B10 programs.

They should lose a first-round draft pick and fine Harbough $500k.

If dreaming, let’s go all out. Bring Penn State with them when they move over to the ACC. Make the money rain like manna.

I’d cackle if they accepted a Notre Dame invitation to the ACC.

Notre Dame currently makes $22m annually for football. We can see where the market goes for it with their next contract, but probably only Ohio State and Alabama are on their level.

The B12 lost 6 programs, they had to get aggressive to survive. There was nothing calm about their plan, they just got lucky the PAC-12 was even more inept.

Big 10 takes UNC… SEC takes NC State

ACC hoops look to remain top-heavy.

That article about the Comcast overpayment is damning. The Pac sat on the information for 5 years before Comcast discovered it. Wow.

The most famous high school tournament in the country was the Indiana High School Basketball Tournament. It was a wide-open tournament, built its popularity on underdogs advancing far, and gave us a storyline that we measure all Cinderella’s against. And yet within a decade of the movie, the...

Yes, I think the basketball tv rights are fairly well known. I can't imagine maximizing that except on the margins. It's the tournament revenue that is at stake.

Went investigating. The price increase is automatic for in-state vs out-of-state, but the carrier can decide whether to carry it when the contracts are due. So any carrier in California and Texas that already has the ACCN will now be paying the increased rate.

Carriage fees for conference networks have been statewide in the past. Whether cable views it as a bridge too far with SMU/Stanford/Cal remains to be seen. Also small private schools are kinda the ACC‘s jam. Notre Dame, Wake Forest, Duke.

SMU is paying around $200 million for the privilege. It might not be that surprising they got in.

Historically a bad program. It’s just weird to go after them for the last 12 years which included two B10 title games. Put it this way, they won about as many games from 2015-2018 as UConn since the Fiesta Bowl season. Kansas is the P5 program you were looking for over this time period I think.

Maybe you are thinking of Northwestern from yesteryear? They’ve had several 10-win seasons recently and were a top 15 squad the covid year. They were awful last year though.

Wake has been to 7 straight bowls (8 in 12 years). Duke and Northwestern have been to 7 bowls in the past 12 years. Arizona has been to 5 (but 2017 was the last).

Flugaur has a source in the B10. Is that where he is hearing Clemson is heading? And the starting point is $360m. They can negotiate the $120m exit fee, but not even Texas got out of the GOR.

This is a tweet that seems to have caused the most stir on the Carolina message board. I’d still like to know the how to all this if it’s real.

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/carolina/sapakoff-clemsons-acc-departure-may-be-sooner-as-gamecocks-fret/article_844ab88a-5b9d-11ee-bf7f-13daaf7cde8d.html Big news if Clemson found a GOR loophole.